Ahh, someone used SEARCH. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Search? Yes found it now and lots more on KB885250, sorry! Thanks for all the replies, no more needed. I will try the svcpack.inf route first and then the starting from SP2 slipstream and working forward to present day when I have a lot more time to spend on it. I suspect there will be 10 more fixes to integrate by then. Good old M$, personally I prefer Xandros 3. cheers, bob