Just wanted to report my experiences with MS11-011 and MS11-020. MS11-011 v6 works pretty well on my system. The only real issue that I've run across is that the drivers for my ATI Theater 750 PCIe TV card will sometimes freeze the computer when booting. Strangely enough, sometimes it will start working after rebooting a couple of times. I guess that is an improvement since the drivers didn't work at all prior to installing MS11-011. Other than that, my computer has been working fine and I'm able to run several applications without BlackWingCat's KDW pack. On the other hand, ZoneAlarm 7.0.483.000 does not like MS11-020 at all. It will blue screen right before the password prompt comes up. The error message I get is: ***STOP: 0x0000001E (0xC0000005, 0xB1720D9F, 0x00000000, 0x00000000) KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED ***ADDRESS B1720D9F base at B16DC000, DateStamp 4874da4c - vsdatant.sys vsdatant.sys is part of ZoneAlarm.