in retrospect, not the smartest move, but nonetheless i managed to install/update both frontmotion login and xpize without a reboot in between the net effect: upon next restart, keyboard somehow is totally disabled at logon screen i was able to access the registry using winternals ERD commander and effectively disabled frontmotion, but i still have no use of the keyboard during windows logon i'm going to uninstall xpize now, but not sure exactly how i'll go about that. any suggestions would be appreciated