Majoram

@RyanVM Hi Ryan! Actually your work was one of the first sites I looked at. Good Stuff. But it kinda overwhelmed me a bit. I just prefer to do updates and such myself but I still use your site to check stuff and I plan to use some of the silent installs from your site as well. Btw Ryan. I noticed you have a pretty looonnng list of needed KB????? with your packs. I am just curious, why is the list so long? According to lists I've seen on these forums and other sites, there are not that many fixes needed since old ones supercede the need for older fixes. Am I missing something? @DL Thanks DL! I will check the XPCREATE forums right now. I'm pretty much going the same route as you are doing. I usually just start off with the basics until i'm comfortable then try out tools like XPCREATE etc Thanks for all the help Everyone!!! I tried making another CD again but this time with JUST integratable Hotfixes (no non-critical updates etc). I'm still having the problem where KB893066 does not get installed. Well at the very least Windows Update says it is not. Thanks again all!

I tried getting XPCREATE but I never got a reply. Also I've read nLite might not be so good for applying hotfixes because it doesn't do any checking to see if they are properly applied. (sorry can't remember exactly where but it's somewhere in these forums). Finally, I also like learning things from the ground up. Just for fun. Plus I know what is going behind the scenes then.

I didn't put those in. That's what is automatically generated when you use the /integrate switch with a hotfix. I don't know exactly what it does though.

Cool Thanks for the info! Yup, I had checked to see if KB893066.exe is inside the SVCPACK folder. It was there and yet it didn't install arrgghhh

Nope i'm not using any hacked stuff yet. I'm just getting a basic setup going. I know they aren't "hotfixes". Sorry for wording it incorrectly I was just using it as a general term. So since /integrate does not do anything much different than just using the SVCPACK.INF, should I just go all out and use SVCPACK.INF method? Basically I just want to collect together my Hotfixes, Non-critical Updates, WMP10, MSN7 and .NET (plus fixes) into one install. And I am wondering what is the "cleanest/surest" method of making sure everything goes alright. I know qchain.exe is supposed to make sure everything is ok, right? I am using the list below as my source of which updates to download: Unattended Windows Forum: Hotfixes List I would appreciate any alternate suggestions or just any advice at all. thanks! Majoram

Hi, I am using both the Svcpack.inf and the /integrate options to integrate my hotfixes into WinXP (Service Pack 2 already integrated). The reason I am doing this is because I want to have my hotfixes/patches integrated into XP ahead of the installation. But the following do not work with /integrate and all I can think of to do is to put them into SVCPACK.INF as in the Unattended tutorial. - KB890830 (Malicious Software Removal tool) - KB831240 (HighMAT support) (Also I want to slipstream Windows Media Player 10 & .NET into the CD, another reason I why I want to have the hotfixes integrated rather than using SVCPACK.INF all the way). The problem is that even though everything installed smoothly, when I did a Windows Update, the recent hotfix KB893066 shows up. But as far as I can see, KB893066 got integrated since it shows up in the I386/SVCPACK folder with all the other hotfixes that got integrated. I used IcemanND script to integrate my hotfixes: IcemanND Hotfix Integration script I used Iceman since it is supposed to install the hotfixes in some proper order. (As far as I have read it fixes a problem with one hotfix overiding another?). The following is my SVCPACK.INF file: [CatalogHeader] [Version] BuildNumber=2600 MinorVersion=1 MajorVersion=5 Signature="$WINDOWS NT$" [SetupData] CatalogSubDir="\I386\svcpack" [SetupHotfixesToRun] KB896428.exe /q /n /z KB896422.exe /q /n /z KB896358.exe /q /n /z KB893803v2.exe /q /n /z KB893086.exe /q /n /z KB893066.exe /q /n /z KB891781.exe /q /n /z KB890859.exe /q /n /z KB890831.exe /q /n /z KB890175.exe /q /n /z KB890046.exe /q /n /z KB888302.exe /q /n /z KB888240.exe /q /n /z KB888113.exe /q /n /z KB887797.exe /q /n /z KB887742.exe /q /n /z KB886716.exe /q /n /z KB886677.exe /q /n /z KB886185.exe /q /n /z KB885836.exe /q /n /z KB885626.exe /q /n /z KB885250.exe /q /n /z KB885222.exe /q /n /z KB884883.exe /q /n /z KB884020.exe /q /n /z KB883939.exe /q /n /z KB873339.exe /q /n /z KB873333.exe /q /n /z KB885835.exe /q /n /z KB890830.exe /Q KB831240.exe /Q qchain.exe [ProductCatalogsToInstall] KB896428.cat KB896422.cat KB896358.cat KB893803v2_wxp.cat KB893086.cat KB893066.cat KB891781.cat KB890859.cat KB890831.cat KB890175.cat KB890046.cat KB888302.cat KB888240.cat KB888113.cat KB887797.cat KB887742.cat KB886716.cat KB886677.cat KB886185.cat KB885836.cat KB885626.cat KB885250.cat KB885222.cat KB884883.cat KB884020.cat KB883939.cat KB873339.cat KB873333.cat KB885835.cat I would like to figure out what I am doing wrong. What I am probably doing is stupidly wrong but not so obvious to me. So if anyone can point out what is wrong or being done badly, I would appreciate it. Any suggestions on Alternate solutions are appreciated as well. TIA! Majoram

Yup I plan to just do it through an unattended setup. Right now i'm just trying to come up with a custom MSI for MSN7 first. Thanks All for the help!

Cool, Thanks for the advice! What methods do you suggest though, if this one is problematic? Majoram

Nobody? Help ... Anyone??

Hi all! I just wanted to see if I am getting the right idea for creating MSI installs for applications in general. This is pretty much what I have guessed (haven't tried it yet). 1) Run Discoverer from WinInstall LE on a clean windows install. 2) Install <Application> 3) Customize <Application> using <whatever> plus through the application settings. 4) Run Discoverer again. 5) Create MSI using WinInstall LE Is that just about right? I have also noticed some people using 7Zip but I do not understand the reason. Shouldn't the MSI be enough to install the application? Also I have noticed some installs deleting folders and such. Most of it seems obvious (like folders for different Windows versions). Also some people have separated components from different applications. Is there any advice or notes or anything on what to look for or what to pull out when customising an application? (badly worded question but hopefully I got the point across). TIA! Majoram

Hi, I have seen people producing custom installations of various programs, my question is how do they do this? Specifically I want to start with MSN Messenger 7. I have downloaded and installed WinInstall LE which is the tool used. But it does not want to start (some error about invalid licence). No it's not a cracked copy or anything like that 1) Are there other tools to use? 2) How do I know what to delete etc to customise a package? Is it just trial and error? Or do I have to look for specific things (registry entries, files etc)? Any help, tutorials, suggestions, websites etc are appreciated! Thanks!

Cool, Thanks All!! Now I just gotta find an MSN 7 Slipstreamer

Hi all! My first time here so please excuse me if this sounds dumb. I am wondering, this topic lists all the patches needed for Windows SP2 WITH MSN Messenger and WMP10 installed. http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=31886 Now as far as i know I can only 1) integrate the patches onto the CD 2) and then place WMP10 and MSN7 in svcpack.inf where they run during windows install The problem with this is that WMP10 and MSN7 are installed AFTER the patches! But is this ok??? OR is it possible to: 1) Integrate WMP10 and MSN7 onto unattended CD 2) and then integrate the hotfixes??? OR If you know a different way to do this... I would appreciate any suggestions. Thanks, Majoram