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There is not really a big difference between them and both are successfully tested on several different nForce chipset systems. I have tested them too.So it is your decision which one you will take. The only advice I can give is not to take the included Forceware driver. If you have a NVIDIA graphic adapter , take the latest official Forceware v. 93.71 from NVIDIA's homepage. If you want to integrate the different drivers of one of those AIO chipset driver packages into a bootable CD, you have to do the following: 1. Unzip the package by using 7-zip or by "installing" the package somewhere, where you find them again (it will not really be installed, but only unzipped). 2. Integrate all drivers you need or want separately by using the nLite options.

I don't understand, what you mean.The latest nForce3 chipset driver package has the version 5.11 (the first number=5 stands for nForce3 chipsets) and is from June 2005 whereas the latest nForce4 AMD chipset driver package has the version 6.86 (the first number=6 stands for nForce4 chipsets) was published by NVIDIA 1 year later. That is the reason why all components are newer and have a higher version number than those of the nForce3 package. What is your problem? If you have an nForce3 SataRaid system and want newer drivers than those you find within the 5.11 package, you may try one of the newest nForce chipset driver Remix packages you find here: http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/nforce-111...3e19645950a77eb and here: http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/meis-nware...3e19645950a77eb

If you own a Windows 98 or Windows Millennium CD, but can't find it now, why don't you just borrow such a CD from a friend? You will need it only during the installation of Windows XP.

You must have an original Windows 95/98/ME CD. Windows XP Setup will ask you to insert this CD. After having done it, you have to reinsert the nLited XP CD and Setup will continue.

I assume, that you have 2 S-ATA hdd's set as nForce RAID and 1 non-RAID hdd.First questions: Did you set your RAID array as bootable within your RAID Creation Utility (F10) and as first bootable hard disk device (this has nothing to do with the "normal" boot device order CD-ROM/hdd/floppy) within BIOS after having successfully created the NVIDIA RAID? This is very important, otherwise your system will not find the correct boot sector (MBR), which should be at drive C: within your RAID device. It was not a good idea to install the new OS onto your RAID without unplugging the non-RAID hdd. Now you probably have a mixture of MBR's on different drives. I don't understand your explanation for not being able to unplug the non-RAID hdd during the XP installation. When you have an XP Home CD as Upgrade version, you simply have to insert the upgradable OS CD into your CD drive, when you are asked for, and then you can continue your installation. Check, if you have set your RAID as bootable (by using the RAID utility) and as first bootable hard disk drive (open your mainboard BIOS and search for "Hard Disk Priority" or something like this).If you managed both, unplug your non-RAID hdd and retry to install XP. Do a clean install of Windows XP by formatting drive C. One more tip: If you have a running OS, I would recommend to prepare a second nLited XP CD without integrated SATA_IDE driver subfolder. It is possible, that your nForce SataRaid system only needs the integrated SATARAID driver subfolder. Use nLite 1.3 RC for creating this CD, this new version doesn't execute the SATA_IDE driver integration automaticly and lets you decide, if you wish it or not. Don't use any of these possibilities. You will get XP installed onto your new system. By the way: the nForce RAID is much better than the Sil RAID.

Within this thread you can expect only help regarding the integration of the nForce SataRaid drivers into a bootable CD. If you need special assistance in how to get everything going for an evga 680i, you should look here or google for "evga 680i". You are right - before you begin with the installation of any OS, you should update your mainboard BIOS. If you need instructions in how to flash a BIOS, you should look into your mainboard manual. Here is a sticky thread about your special question.

As you don't want to integrate the mass storage device drivers by using nLite, you better should ask for help within this forum: http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showforum=88By the way: You don't need to integrate any nForce S-ATA driver unless you have built an nForce RAID array.

These files are onely necessary, when you want to install these drivers within a running OS.

If you put the whole NVIDIA chipset driver package content into your created 001_CHIPSET folder, you won't get any chipset driver installed. Reason: All the driver INF files are laying in different subfolders and the XP Setup routine will not find them. The INF files have to be in the root directory of the special drivers subfolder.Why don't you use nLite? The driver integration is very easy and nearly done automaticly by this tool. If you want to do the driver integration manually, do the following: 1. Check which nForce chipset drivers (IDE/RAID, SMBus, Ethernet, Audio, Gart etc.) you need (it depends on your hardware configuration). 2. Create new driver subfolders for each driver you need (for example 000_RAID, 001_SMBus, 002_Ethernet etc.). 3. Put the content of the appropiate chipset driver package subfolder into the just created subfolders. Be aware, that the needed INF files are in the root of each subfolder.

I assume, that your nForce4 RAID array is correctly created and set as bootable.In this case you will be able to find easier ways to get your RAID partitionated and formatted. If neither a friend nor your father will let you create a customized nLited XP CD for you with their computer, you still have the possibility to get XP installed by F6/floppy method (provided that your pc has a floppy drive and you still have the RAID driver disk from the manufacturer of your mainboard). A clean install of an OS is always better than an upgrade.

It was not a good idea to integrate drivers into an already nLited ISO file. Furthermore different nForce chipset RAID systems need different driver combinations. As you can see within the first post of this thread, it is not possible to create an "omnipotent" nLited CD usable for all nForce SataRaid systems. You should create a new nLited CD using the original Windows XP source and integrate the special nForce SataRaid drivers I have recommended within the first post of this thread for your hardware configuration.

nForce SataRaid systems don't need any Microsoft driver. Nevertheless I would not recommend to delete the MS Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller drivers, if you are using any IDE devices (CD-ROM or DVD). Reason: Many users have reported about problems with NVIDIA's P-ATA drivers (nForce4 Parallel ATA Controller = IDE s/w) and obviously got better results with the fully compatible MS Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE drivers.

You will not get WHQL certified nForce SataRaid drivers by using the LEGACY subfolder drivers, but this is not really a big disadvantage unless you try to upgrade to Vista.

Why else would you integrate the drivers into a bootable Windows XP x64 CD if not for reinstalling the OS?If you have a running XP x64, there is not need for any reinstallation.

This was not correct. You should have taken both required Controller drivers.

Within the NLDRV folder all files are compressed to save space on your CD.You will find the uncompressed NVRAID.SYS file within the I386 directory. I you are able to get the actual nForce SataRaid drivers installed from scratch, you should do it.It is not really dangerous to install an OS with old mass storage controller drivers and to update them later (the update takes place after the reboot), but you might get problems, if you want a later upgrade from XP to Vista.

For testing purposes you should not remove anything from your original OS CD.

You are right, both suggestions will not solve your problem. My advice was just a method to find out, which hardware might be responsable for your trouble. I have only 2 options: Either you have done something wrong the last 30 times or one of your hardware components has gone defective.

Stay with your on-board NVIDIA nForce4 RAID controller. All other options are worse.I suppose, that your problem has another cause and suggest the following: 1. Flash the newest mainboard BIOS. 2. Don't install the NVIDIA firewall (Network Access Manager=NAM). 3. Disable the "Enable command Queuing" option of your S-ATA Controller (device manager -> IDE ATA/ATAPI-Controller -> NVIDIA nForce4 Serial ATA Controller -> Properties). If all these actions don't help, try to run your S-ATA drives with S-ATA1 level (150 MB/s).

This is quite normal when you are booting from a non-RAID hdd.It would be better for you, if you would change the place of the MBR (put it onto the RAID instead of the non-RAID Raptor). If your RAID has been set as bootable, it will get drive letter C:, whereas your single Raptor drive will get drive letter D:. If you install any OS by booting with an nLited CD or DVD with integrated nForce SataRaid drivers (note: unplug your Raptor during the installation!), you will see at once all drives and partitions after having reconnected your non-RAID hdd. It is not your RAID, but your S-ATA drive which is detected as "removable drive". This is totally normal. All S-ATA drives with hot-swapping ability are detected as "removable drive" and get an icon within the systray. That is nothing to warry about.

Look at the bottom of my guide (first post of this thread). There you will find something about non-RAID S-ATA systems.

Althgough I have no experience with your new nForce 680i chipset, here are some notes:If you have RAID devices and non-RAID devices within your system, it is very important, that you don't get more than 1 Master Boot Record (MBR). Each Windows Operating Systems tries to get installed onto a non-Raid hdd and tries to name it drive C. This would be a good idea. If you want to get any Windows OS installed onto your RAID array, you should unplug all other (non-Raid) storage devices during the installation. As your RAID array is build with more than 1 hdd, you may not unplug the other hdd, because you would break your RAID array this way.

Exactly that would I do.Everything you reported indicates, that one of your hdd drives is defective. Find out which one by using a hdd checking utility like Drive Fitness Test (Hitachi) or Data Lifeguard (Western Digital).

1. Did you test your RAM with Memtest?2. What is about your PSU? With your system you need much and extremely constant power. I don't know.

It is not really the same. Differences: 1. The combination SATARAID+SATA_IDE does not work with some nForce chipsets. 2. You won't get WHQL-certified drivers by using the LEGACY subfolder. 3. The combination SATARAID+SATA_IDE prevents the installation of the nForce P-ATA (=sw/IDE) driver. You will get the MS Dual Channel PCI-IDE Controller driver. When you integrate the LEGACY subfolder, you will get the nForce P-ATA driver installed. Yes, nLite v. 1.2.1 integrates automaticly the SATA_IDE subfolder as PnP, if you are going to integrate the SATARAID subfolder of an nForce chipset package.