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@ Bking1340: Welcome at MSFN Forums! You should not integrate a lot of drivers, but just the "appropriate" one for your SATA Controller.As far as I know the HP compac Mini 111c has an MCP79 chipset. If I am right regarding the chipset, you will need to integrate a NVIDIA nForce SATA driver and not an Intel SATA driver. Please do a look into the start post of >this< thread. Since I suspect, that your netbook is running in AHCI and not in RAID mode, you should follow the procedure layed down within part B of my guide. Good luck! Fernando

@ all users of my guide: Since I got access today (01/30/2010) to the WHQL certified versions of the new Intel textmode drivers (32/64bit) and the new complete RST package v9.5.6.1001 dated 12/30/2009, I have just updated my guide (= start post of this thread). These brandnew Intel RST drivers v9.5.6.1001, which now have been digitally signed by Microsoft, are running fine with my Intel ICH10R RAID0 and my Intel ICH8M AHCI systems. So I can really recommend the use of them. Good luck with the integration of Intel's newest textmode drivers! Regards Fernando

@ Kurt_Aust: Thanks for your statement, which clarifies a lot. Just to avoid any misunderstandings I want to add some remarks:Kurt_Aust's personal review only applies the ability of the RST software installer for being integrated into a Windows XP (32/64bit) CD, but this does not mean, that the installer has any issues when being used while running any Windows OS from XP up. The RST software installation always ran flawlessly with my Intel desktop (ICH10R with RAID0) and notebook (ICH8M in AHCI Mode) systems. Furthermore all users should consider, that Intel has started the development of the new Rapid Storage Technology in May 2009 and that the error free silent integration of the RST Console software into an old OS like Windows XP might not have the highest priority at this stage of the development. Although the new Intel RST package v9.5.6.1001 and the included drivers are running absolutely fine with my desktop and notebook systems, I am pretty sure, that we will see even better Intel RST packages in the near future. Regards Fernando

@ Kurt_Aust: This might be a dumb question: Why do you want to integrate the complete Intel MSM resp. RST package? You probably know, that the MSM or RST Control Center is not essential at all for Intel RAID users, but nearly useless for users, who are running their SATA hdd's in AHCI Mode. Furthermore the installation of the MSM or RST Control Center prolongs the boot time quite noticeable. The only important thing is the integration of the Intel AHCI/RAID driver and this should be done without using the installer of the MSM or RST package. That is why I don't recommend to integrate the Intel MSM or RST application into the Windows XP 32/64bit CD. Users with an Intel RAID array, who want to use the Control Center, can easily install the MSM or RST software after having completely installed the OS. Regards Fernando

Although the newest RST package v9.5.6.1001 is not yet digitally signed by MS, I do recommend to take it instead of Intel's currently official version 9.5.0.1037. You can get the complete package from >here<.The installer of the RST Console works much better, the SETUP.ISS file seems to be ok. Regards Fernando

@ Smash85: Welcome at MSFN Forums! It is not easy to help you, because you obviously do nt know, if your SATA hdd is running in RAID or AHCI Mode. Unfortunately you have already formatted the Win7 partition, which makes it impossible to have a look into the Device Manager. Before I can start withnany help, you should give me some further informations: 1. How many hdd's are connected to you motherboard? 2. Where can I get some informations about your ASUS M268-AM SE2? I don't find anything about that board at ASUS web pages. That depends on the answer to the question, in which Mode (AHCI or RAID) your SATA Controller is running. Which driver did you integrate? The answer depends on what you want. If you want to use the AHCI features, you probably have to enable the "Serial ATA Controller" and to disable the IDE one. The NVIDIA RAID Controller should be disabled anyway, unless you are going to create a RAID array (minimum 2 hdd's required).

@ jervatron: Welcome at MSFN Forums! The only driver you have to load/integrate is the suitable textmode driver for the SATA AHCI or SATA RAUID Controller, where your SATA hdd is connected. Which "Storage Controller" driver did you integrate and how did you do it?

Before you have set the SATA hdd to "AHCI Mode", it was controlled by the "Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller", which is the MS standard Controller for native IDE (=P-ATA) and non-AHCI SATA drives. This Controller was just renamed by one of the Intel's chipset "drivers" to a device named "Intel® ICH8M 3 port Serial ATA Storage Controller - 2828", but still was using the generic MS IDE drivers.Since the SATA ports of your Dell notebook are managed by the "Intel® 82801HEM/HBM SATA AHCI Controller (Mobile ICH8M-E/M)", there is no device named "Primary Channel" anymore, because this AHCI Controller doesn't use any IDE channel. The other and still remaining "Primary IDE Channel" belongs to the device named "Intel® ICH8M Ulta ATA Storage Controllers - 2850", which is managing a native IDE Controller of your notebook. I suspect, that the optical drive is connected to this Controller. Regards Fernando

@ bearsfolks: Welcome at MSFN Forums! I have read your post, but I cannot see any real issue with your fresh XP installation. Since you haven't any yellow mark or "unknown device" within your Device Manager, you obviously don't have any device or driver problem with your SATA and IDE drives. Nevertheless here are some remarks from my side: 1. Since the drivers on your Dell CD probably are very old, it would be a better idea to take the actual Intel textmode driver I have linked within my guide (first post of this thread). They will work fine with your Dell notebook too. 2. It would have been enough, if you would have chosen just the "ICH8M-E/M SATA AHCI Controller" (actual name) or "Intel® 82801HEM/HBM SATA AHCI Controller (Mobile ICH8M-E/M)" (old name), when you get the popup window while integrating the Intel textmode driver. 3. You got different Controller names within the "IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers" section of your Device Manager, because you were running the SATA drive in different modes (first screenshot: IDE Mode, 2nd screenshot: AHCI Mode). There is nothing to be concerned about and nothing to fix. You got different Controller names, because you are running your SATA hdd in "AHCI Mode" now, whereas you previously ran it in "IDE Mode". My answers:1. There is no reason to change the SATA mode back from "AHCI" to "IDE", because you only will be able to use the AHCI features (NCQ, hot plugging etc.) while running your SATA hdd in "AHCI Mode". 2. No, leave the "Flash Cache Module" as it is now ("off"). For details you may look >here<. If you want to create a new XP CD with integrated actual Intel textmode and chipset "drivers", you should just follow my guide (start post of this thread).Don't be irritated by the Controller names. If you integrate the Intel textmode driver and additionally the Intel chipset "drivers", the Controller may be named by a file like "ICH78IDE.INF" or "ICH78ID2.INF", which both are just text files of the Intel chipset "driver" package. Regards Fernando

This is what I think too.You cannot test textmode drivers within a virtual environment.

@ Kurt Aust: Since you used the original (not modded) Intel textmode drivers, and other users (inclusive me) had not problems to get them installed, I suspect another reason for your bad results. Please give me the details regarding the Southbridge chip of your mainboard and the DeviceID of your Intel SATA AHCI Controller. Regards Fenando

@ Kurt_Aust: It is really strange, that the Win XP x64 installation failed after having integrated the official Intel driver v9.5.0.1037. I didn't yet get any similar feedback. If you want to try the newest 64bit RST driver v9.5.6.1001 dated 30th December 2009 and not yet digitally signed by MS, you may donload it from >here<. By the way: These brandnew RST drivers v9.5.6.1001 are running fine with my ICH10R RAID and my ICH8M AHCI system. Regards Fernando

Hello Serge, it was a pleasure for me, that I was able to help you. Have fun with your ATI SB7xx system running Windows XP x64 in AHCI Mode! Regards Fernando

Hello Serge, please follow by updated advices of my previous post. Good luck! Fernando

@ as1serge: Welcome at MSFN Forums! Important: Changing the SATA Mode from "IDE" to "AHCI" from within a running OS is always risky and may end with the impossibility to boot into the OS again. That is why I strongly recommend to get the AHCI drivers installed from scratch by doing a fresh install of the Windows OS. If you want to try the risky way nevertheless, you should backup all important data, before you start doing it. Here is the hopefully successful procedure how to switch from IDE to AHCI Mode while running Windows XP x64 with an SB7xx ATI Southbridge system: Download the actual ATI RAID driver or >this< already prepared 64bit ATI driver and unzip it. Copy the file named "ahcix64.sys" of the just downloaded package into the WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS directory. Import the following CODE text into your registry:REGEDIT4 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#ven_1002&cc_0106] "Service"="ahcix64" "ClassGUID"="{4D36E97B-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\ahcix64] "Type"=dword:00000001 "Start"=dword:00000000 "ErrorControl"=dword:00000001 "Tag"=dword:00000021 "ImagePath"="system32\\drivers\\ahcix64.sys" "Group"="SCSI Miniport" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\ahcix64\Parameters\PnpInterface] "5"=dword:00000001 Reboot, enter directly the BIOS and switch the SATA Controller settings from "IDE" to "AHCI" Mode. Reboot (finger crossed). You may try it at own risk. Good luck! Fernando EDIT: There was a mistake within the procedure I have described above. I am sorry about that. Please follow the updated advices.

@ mongo66: Regarding the Intel textmode drivers I recommend to take the modded version, because this way you will get all possible ICH6-10 chipset AHCI and RAID systems supported. If you want to integrate the newest Intel textmode drivers, take the RST driver v9.5.6.1001, which I have modded yesterday. >Here< is the download link of the 32bit version. Regards Fernando

That is an interesting idea to integrate 2 different nForce SATARAID drivers into the same XP CD, one for the LEGACY Mode nForce 2-4 systems and the other for the more actual nForce RAID systems (by the way: AHCI support will not work with them). Although I am always warning to integrate more than 1 textmode driver of the same chipset vendor into a Windows XP CD, this special combination may work: modded LEGACY folder v6.99 and modded SATARAID folder v9.99.09 Both have to be integrated separately (single driver mode) as textmode drivers into a Windows XP CD. Reason for being optimistic, that it will work: Since the SATA and RAID drivers of both driver versions have different names, they will not be overwritten while nLite is copying them into the i386 directory of the CD. Further advices: Although I do not know, if it is really needed, you should erase double HardwareID entries from the INF and OEM files before integrating them to avoid any interfering acts while doing the Windows Setup. If you want, I can help you to do it. Please give us a feedback, if that worked, because this might be interesting for other users too. If you should not succeed with this procedure, you may use the DriverPacks method (>Link<), but this will not work with nLite. Just to remember you: Only the private use of nLite is allowed, any use of nLite for a business purpose is illegal. Good luck! Fernando

No.Did you really read my last post here? I mean my very last one. EDIT: Let me explain:The driver named PCIIDE.SYS is the generic MS in-box IDE driver, which can handle all native IDE (=P-ATA) and native SATA (SATA IDE) hard disk drives and optical drives, but it does not support any SATA drives, which are running in AHCI or RAID Mode. The only driver, which is able to detect and to support your SATA drives, which are running in AHCI Mode, is the Intel AHCI and RAID driver named IASTOR.SYS, but this driver is not able to manage any native IDE or native SATA drive (if the Controller is set to IDE Mode). So if you ever do an update of the currently running Intel SATA AHCI driver, you will only replace the IASTOR.SYS by another one with the same name, but another version. If the real driver of the device named "ICH8M UltraATA Controller" is the PCIIDE.SYS, everything is clear: Usually the name for the IDE Controller, which is managed by the PCIIDE.SYS, is named "Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller". It is one of the INF files of Intel's chipset "drivers", which renamed the "Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller" to "ICH8M UltraATA Controller" during the XP installation, because you had integrated not only the Intel AHCI driver, but additionally the Intel chipset "drivers". Now to your question: What is the PCIIDE.SYS and the "ICH8M UltraATA Controller" good for? Answer: Both are needed to manage your native IDE drives, for example an IDE connected optical drive (CD/DVD burner). If you don't have any IDE connected drive, you can disable the IDE Controllers within the BIOS. After having done that, the "ICH8M UltraATA Controller" will not be listed anymore within your Device Manager. By the way: Since the PCIIDE.SYS is the generic IDE driver of Windows XP, you will not be able to update it. Only a Windows XP Service Pack may contain an updated PCIIDE.SYS version. The OS would not accept any simple update done by the user. Everything clear now?

Look into the related post of the other thread. I have specified my request.

@ oao: I am sorry to bother you with an off-topic demand: There is a need to clarify something regarding the problem you had posted within >this< thread, because I want to write a conclusion of the discussion regarding the different Intel SATA and native IDE drivers. Please give us a reply to my last post (>Link<). Thanks in advance! Fernando

AFAIK the tool "Win Integrator" is only designed for adding/removing/tweaking things of a Windows 7 DVD and not for doing this with Vista.

The device named "ICH8M UltraATA Controller" is listed in one of the various INF files of the Intel chipset "drivers". What I do not know is, if 8.2.0.1011 is the version of the related INF file (which is not a real driver) or the version of the driver named PCIIDE.SYS, which is managing the Conntroller usually named "Standard dual Channel PCI IDE Controller". Please have a deeper look into the "Driver Details" of this Controller. Which drivers are listed there (name and version)? EDIT: You have written, that your Device Manager shows a device named "ICH8M UltraATA Controller" and that this device uses a driver v8.2.0.1011. Furthermore you reported, that it was this device and the driver v8.2.0.1011, which did manage your SATA hdd, before you installed the Intel AHCI driver v9.5.6.1001. Since it is impossible, that the Intel SATA Controllers, where your SATA devices are connected, use different IDE/SATA drivers at the same time, you should do the following: 1. Open the Device Manager and do a right click onto the "ICH8M UltraATA Controller". 2. Hit "Properties" > "Driver" > "Driver Details" 3. Do a screenshot of that Window (by pressing "Alt"+"Print", opening the Windows tool "Paint", pasting the screeenshot and saving it as PNG or JPG file) and attach it to your next post here. Alternatively you may post the driver names you see and the driver version of each of them.

The Console is only important for RAID users. Furthermore you may get a prolonged boot time, if you install it. No, since the Console application is software and you only have integrated the driver. What does your Device Manager "say"? Which Intel Controller is listed there within the "IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers" or "SCSI and RAID Controllers" section?You can easily check the exact driver version, if you do a right click onto the Controller > "Properties" > "Driver" > "Driver Details". What do you mean by that? All mass storage drivers are IDE drivers, but there are some differences: native IDE (=P-ATA), native Serial ATA (SATA IDE), SATA AHCI and SATA RAID.

This is the popup window you get after having run the installer of the complete RST package v9.5.6.1001 (similar, but in english language): You can see on the left hand side a small box, where you can enable the installation of the RST Control Center by clicking into the box. If you do not check it, you will not get it installed. Are you sure, that you got any Intel AHCI driver installed? Maybe you didn't force the installation.

If you do not choose to get the Console application installed, only the IASTOR.SYS will be replaced and the registry settings will be updated. RAID users will get benefit from installing, because they are able to manage some RAID functions from within Windows. For AHCI users the Console is less important. You only will get some informations, which you may get by the Device Manager too (for example, if the write caching of your SATA hdd is enabled or not).