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  1. It's a RAM problem!

    I definitely agree.

    Also, you can get that main stop error code (PAGE_FAULT_IN_NON_PAGED_AREA) if you installed incompatible RAM or have a bad RAM slot.

    Gotten that error code before after installing another 128 MB PC133 SDRAM module to an IBM PC300 GL. (Pentium III Katmai 533 Mhz with 133 MHz FSB)

    Surprised me, because the RAM module was fine with a couple of Via KT133 based motherboards.

    Here's what MS says about their error:

    Cause

    Bug check 0x50 usually occurs after the installation of faulty hardware or in the event of failure of installed hardware (usually related to defective RAM, be it main memory, L2 RAM cache, or video RAM).

    Another common cause is the installation of a faulty system service.

    Antivirus software can also trigger this error, as can a corrupted NTFS volume.

    EDIT: Ooops - didn't recall that I'd already debugged this. This is an ATI card issue. Not a RAM issue. The dump was debugged, the user switched to another card, and the problem is resolved.

    Best path forward when you see a blue screen of death: debug the dump.

  2. looks like its time to bring this back ]:

    i reformatted again recently because i was stupid and got a trojan. After that reformat, i started having this problem again, so i reformatted a 2nd time, i still have it. :/

    i did a memtest a couple days ago and i passed 23 times with 0 fails/errors.

    I also get the same exact screen as my first post.

    I made post in other forums too

    TechSpot

    AnandTech

    You solved this by analyzing the memory dump (you downloaded Windows Debugging Tools and ran an '!analyze -v' on the dumpfile) which pointed you to ati2tag.sys. This is an ATI driver, so you tried the latest ATI driver set (didn't work), then switched to another ATI card (worked), so it seems like the ATI card itself is the problem.

  3. ..., or the driver itself is messed up.
    I’m almost sure after reinstalling Windows there will be no problems... There must be some leftovers hanging around.

    Sure, because when you reinstall, you usually put on the latest driver. :)

    The post immediately prior had it right, I'll bet - bad driver or bad card.

  4. so what can i do? pull them out and put them back in?

    Everyone here is guessing. Read the debug log at bluescreens.homeserver.com (navigate to the BSOD page), install the debugger, debug the memory dumps you're doubtless getting, and post the output of '!analyze -v' here, and you'll then know for sure what the problem is.

  5. I am sorry, I forgot to mention I have Windows XP SP2, all updates done.

    I have upgraded the bios to last stable version.

    My mobo: GA-P35-DS3R (gigabyte).

    I only have 1 HDD so it's not RAID or SCSI. I use AHCP (I belive it's called, it's the SATA II)

    I will look into the blue screen link tomorrow when I will be having some free time, and I will try to update Daemon tools driver see if that does anything.

    I have the same Daemon Tool on my other computer, difference would be that it uses PATA HDD and AGP Videocard, and I never had this problem. But still, I started reciving this errors ever since that Daemon install failed.

    What happened when you looked at the dump in the debugger? bluescreens.livenode.com has full information on what to do....

  6. I am sorry, I forgot to mention I have Windows XP SP2, all updates done.

    I have upgraded the bios to last stable version.

    My mobo: GA-P35-DS3R (gigabyte).

    I only have 1 HDD so it's not RAID or SCSI. I use AHCP (I belive it's called, it's the SATA II)

    I will look into the blue screen link tomorrow when I will be having some free time, and I will try to update Daemon tools driver see if that does anything.

    I have the same Daemon Tool on my other computer, difference would be that it uses PATA HDD and AGP Videocard, and I never had this problem. But still, I started reciving this errors ever since that Daemon install failed.

    5 minutes spent with the debugger will tell you why it crashes - (usually) no need to guess.... it's much easier than guessing - just load the dump in the debugger, analyze it, and you're done!

  7. Hi,

    So I first got this when I installed daemon tools and the instalation has faild. It kept having problem, so I formated drive C: (I have C and D in 1 HDD).

    But even now after format I still recive this error on blue screen. Why would it still give me this error? since I format any errors I might'v got from a faulty daemon installer (which does inserts virtual drives) should no longer be there.

    And it seems it allways happen when I browse on firefox. They are random. It never happens when I play or it's idle in desktop.

    Any thoughts?

    Check out bluescreens.livenode.com - follow the BSOD debugging guide and you can see what (driver, usually) caused the problem.

  8. Sounds hardware-ish, but I'd be happy to look. Run MPSReports (setup-perf version) - from Microsoft, and send me the contents of c:\windows\minidump. Send the mpsreports .cab output file and the dumpfiles to bluescreens at gmail dot com in a zipfile.

    Open up the system event log, text version from that .cab file (use winrar to explode it) and do a find for memory.dmp.

    You have what, 8 I think, dumps in the past 7 days. That's a disaster. And they're all (or almost all) different.

    To me this is a hardware problem. If you'd mailed all the other minidumps I could be more sure, but that looks like a hardware issue.

    I saved alle the minidumps. I'll send them over. The date they happened is infront of the filename.

    8 dumps, well, it's just like i told you. Starting up with a cold boot gives the problem. So that's about 8 days ago the problem started.

    According to the MS reply after reporting the problem it's most likely the following:

    - CPU

    - Power Supply

    - Memory

    - System board

    (To be sure we need more info..)

    ... so basically, what Bill & Co are saying is: we don't know, replace everything .... :):)

    Outside of a few CPU and memory errors (bitflips and the like, plus parity issues) it's really tough for your OS to tell you what bits in your hardware have a problem without running manufacturer supplied diagnostics programs. Blaming MS is silly.

    Looked at the other dumps. Still think you have a HW problem.

  9. Sounds hardware-ish, but I'd be happy to look. Run MPSReports (setup-perf version) - from Microsoft, and send me the contents of c:\windows\minidump. Send the mpsreports .cab output file and the dumpfiles to bluescreens at gmail dot com in a zipfile.

    Open up the system event log, text version from that .cab file (use winrar to explode it) and do a find for memory.dmp.

    You have what, 8 I think, dumps in the past 7 days. That's a disaster. And they're all (or almost all) different.

    To me this is a hardware problem. If you'd mailed all the other minidumps I could be more sure, but that looks like a hardware issue.

  10. Sounds hardware-ish, but I'd be happy to look. Run MPSReports (setup-perf version) - from Microsoft, and send me the contents of c:\windows\minidump. Send the mpsreports .cab output file and the dumpfiles to bluescreens at gmail dot com in a zipfile.

  11. Why would you want to *remove* functionality from an OS? Isn't the entire point to have that functionality if you need it? It's not as if the extra half-a-penny cost of the tiny amount of disk space used is an issue, so why do it and induce that incompatibility and/or problems? It's not as if you're (generic you - the nLite/vLite user) 'hacking' the OS or doing anything special - you're just ticking a little box in an application that someone else wrote to do this, so what's the big deal? Why do it in light of all the issues?

    I have customers that have schools or cybercafes for example. They can install extra software to block unneeded/wanted stuff or just kick it out. Then I would take it out if it breaks no functionalety of windows for those users. And sure it´s not hacking, it´s like taking out the backseats of your car when you use taht space for other things like a to big subwoofer :P.

    Yep - you guessed it - I think that's odd too.

    For schools or cybercafes or whatnot, a better option, IMHO, is to learn how to use Windows security and local policies (and group policies) to do all of that in an automatic and supported manner.

  12. To those that remove services because it makes Vista better somehow, I can only laugh.

    I remove services and laugh even more. Also the idea to have more power over your OS ;) .

    Zxian, nicely said that last line you posted...

    Why would you want to *remove* functionality from an OS? Isn't the entire point to have that functionality if you need it? It's not as if the extra half-a-penny cost of the tiny amount of disk space used is an issue, so why do it and induce that incompatibility and/or problems? It's not as if you're (generic you - the nLite/vLite user) 'hacking' the OS or doing anything special - you're just ticking a little box in an application that someone else wrote to do this, so what's the big deal? Why do it in light of all the issues?

  13. On a server I would never use nLite/vLite, but:

    On my own systems I use nLite, and with succes.

    But indeed saying things don´t work when you broke it your self isn´t right.

    The forum part that uses nLite/vLite on the forum is so big because people love it, and play with it, sure 85% doesn´t know what they are doing and that´s the biggest part of the nLite/vLite section. 50% Of 2000/XP/Vista is useless to me and doesn´t break any program that I use when removed.

    For those that use vLite to automate the install, no worries - this doesn't apply to them.

    To those that remove services because it makes Vista better somehow, I can only laugh. Black Viper's postings on disabling services and such have been so completely debunked at this point it's a bit silly. For an even remotely modern machine, it's not worth the time or effort by any stretch of the imagination. And once you start including the possible incompatibilities you introduce by making these changes, it's an even worse idea.

  14. vista drivers are great and so it vista 64bit, have you even used vista 64bit? also have you used vlite to see how much space the drivers actually use up? it's insane.

    they still should'nt charge you for the drivers. and why would'nt they support a product that many people still have?

    i was talking about you and your case. if you need it for that reason, then how is it not a perfect reason?

    and as you've said MS will go 64bit only and so is Mac. i think they are doing this b/c they feel that it is a superior OS..

    Why is supplying lots of drivers for a product insane? Most would call it "good".

    What is a superior OS? 64 bitness? It's a better way of addressing memory - that's for sure...

  15. I have a motherboard in a live system with an onboard SATA controller is acting strange...it fails to find a boot drive very often. Swapping motherboards is a PITA because it pretty much means clean install, lots of disassembly...etc. I would rather just get a $70 EIDE drive and transfer to the EIDE controller for the main OS.

    are there issues with imaging the bootable primary sata drive w/winXP onto an EIDE drive? I assume i would either need to run repair install of xp...or maybe just fixboot from the Recovery Console/edit the boot.ini by hand would do the trick....and of course change boot priority in bios.

    anyone done this?

    thanks,

    Leon

    Put the IDE PCI card into the PC, and get into Windows (while the HDD is attached to the old controller). Let it PnP and do its' thing.

    You should now be able to boot from the IDE PCI card, as long as your BIOS supports the appropriate boot order, etc.

  16. In that case, I'd go to CompUSA and get their Acer Q6600 machine (2GB, 500GB, ATI 1650SE) for $750 or so.
    Right, for that price you can build a better machine with a REAL video card to play games with ;) .

    $266 CPU

    $100 965 MB

    $80 2G RAM

    $110 Vista H.P.

    $40 DVD + LightScribe

    $100 500GB

    $100 nice tool-less case & great PS, mouse, kb

    $60 cheapest ATI 1650 at Newegg

    Total $856 by my count, plus the time it takes for me to put it together, plus the warranty issues and annoyances (vs. calling up Acer and telling them to fix it...) - I'd rather keep $106 in my pocket *and* get someone else responsible for supporting it. Win-win.

  17. Hey Guys, like I said before, I have NEVER overclocked in my entire life. Even the procesor I have now has never been overclocked. I just had two quick question, I have read that you can overclock the E6850 to 4Ghz on Air Cooling, is this correct? And second The Q6600, I am guessing that you need Water Cooling right? And if this is true, then I am not going to overclock this processor. I have never done water cooling either.

    One day has passed by and I thought I was sure that I want the Q6600, but now I Am starting to have second thoughts again. If I don't get the Quad-Core now, I will get to for sure when the 45nm comes out. I know alot of you guys said that The Q6600 is the best way to go. Maybe I will give it one more day and then I will make my Final Final Decusion!

    brucevangeorge to answer your question, I like to get as many answers I can from everyside. I hope you don't mind.

    THX!

    P.S. Fusion

    In that case, I'd go to CompUSA and get their Acer Q6600 machine (2GB, 500GB, ATI 1650SE) for $750 or so.

  18. Trust me...there's a difference. The synthetic benchmarks may not show it...but it's perceptable. I can tell a huge difference when I'm converting audio files or copying large data files. The greatest advantage is really in the read speeds.

    For multiple people accessing a single share or hitting the disk hard (ie a fileserver) it's a good performance boost.

    For your average gamer, it's nearly worthless. It won't impact loading levels of Quake at all. It also ties you to the motherboard or RAID card that formatted the drives (so if that motherboard or card ever dies, your data is toast until you can get another one of that SAME motherboard or that SAME card). It's also risky (lose one disk, lose all your data). It just isn't worthwhile anymore for most people.

  19. Do you really need the latest bleeding edge CPU to power your next system? The real question to ask is whether or not the CPU will be the bottleneck of your system overall.

    In otherwords, will you really notice the difference between the 6850 and the 6600 or even the 6400 in real-world tasks? I'd save the extra money and put it towards a RAID0 OS drive configuration.

    I got the E700 from Acer (Q6600, 2GB, 500GB, 1650SE, $734AR).

    I've been pleased with the Q6600 performance so far, compared with my E6300/2.13 running at 3.2.

    I run Vista MCE with 3 tuners (soon to be +2 more highdefs), 2 VMWare sessions (my WHS and my 2003 domain controller), and general gaming (with an nv8800gts/320).

  20. I said let's get back to a hardware discussion earlier.

    Now, about the 7600GT. How ell does it mach with an athlon 3200?

    Or would a 6800 Ultra be a better match for it?

    I don't want to put the equivalent of a 7950GT in my PC and then find out I get the same framerate and performance as a 6600GT. That's simply a waste of money.

    The 6600GT and 7600GT are both inexpensive and good solutions and would be a good match for the Athlon if you want to play 3D games. For MCE usage, both are way, way, way more than you need.

  21. Since the binaries are the same, compatibility is exactly the same as well. Somebody's not familiar with the MS productline, and it's not me....

    Well that may be, but I've had problems trying to fix a friend's MCE.

    Theoretically, there should be 100% compatibility, practically its lower than that.

    Anyway, back to the hardware discussion.

    I'm not sure what you saw or why you had a problem with MCE, but it's the same as (as in - it IS) XP with SP2 applied at the factory. It has a few of the Pro features, and a few Pro features are disabled. If you couldn't fix it, I don't know what to tell you, but blaming XP for that is silly.

    If you can point to a program that doesn't work in MCE, I'd be interested in hearing about it. If it's a TV-related program you might need to stop some of the TV-related MCE features, but aside from that, I'd be very interested in hearing what doesn't work.



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