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hmm, seems like the difference between Windows Messenger and MSN Messenger isn't too obvious. Both use, as I understand, my .NET passport, look almost exactly the same(icon, gui, etc.), and have the same purpose and functionality. Anyway, it seems like I have them both installed (eventhough I really tried to uninstall one of them, right or wrong, I don't know, I just need one of them ;-)), just as HandyBuddy says. I'll look into this further tomorrow, it's 01:00 AM here now, and I'm off to work in the morning so...... thanks for all th replies, I will return ;-)

more problems....same as yours Tinker I decided to uninstall my 4.7 version, and install the new. 6.0. Hmmm, seems like 4.7 did NOT uninstall very well, couse now I have 2 freakin' messenger running.................. First of all i went in the add/remove programs and uninstalled some add-on for messenger. Then add/remove win-components to remove messenger. OK, so far so good, no messenger in start menu... I installed 6.0 and launched it. All seemed fine, until I opened OutlookExpress, and discovers that it starts up the old 4.7 version, paralell to the 6.0 vers.....I go into explorer and sees that the old messenger folder is still there. So, how do I uninstall my old messenger.....???? Cant rename the folder, cant remove "read-only". Havn't had the chance to check the "online-without-signing-in" yet, but this is really getting to annoy me.......

Well, Tinker. As I wrote in my first post, that I have already done ;-)

hehe, nice one, HandyBuddy. But I frequently use messenger and wish to continue doing so. But at the time of MY choosing, not as soon the computer starts.

for sure, but how is this possible at all? And more important, how do I stop it from launching?

Eventhough I do NOT start msn messenger or outlook express, I appear online to all my contacts, and they are able to mess me, everytime I turn on my computer. I've unchecked the boxes in messenger options and outlook express, and there is no messenger icon in the systray, or any evidence of messenger running. I still get messages from my contacts, who say I appear online to them. WTF!??!?