I am downloading the instant cd wizard now I will let you know how it works. I use Nero 5.5.7.2 and I like it for burning CDs. But I want the UDF software to format and use the CDRW as a giant floppy. I found the NTI CD maker 2000 and it has a usable UDf package (file CD) but it is a little more involved than I want. Thanks for the Info. OK I tried the NTI CD Maker 2000, the CD wizard, and the Incd 3.20 and as far as UDF and ease of use the Incd 3.20 is the best. I works fine with Nero and I can click and drag from windows explorer and also delete just as if the CDRW was a floppy. So I am sticking with the Nero and Incd 3.20. Thanks for all your suggestions they all worked I just like the Inncd 3.20 better.