I'm not at home at the moment, so I won't be able to try your suggestions until later on. The Creative drivers for Windows 7 have been a complete farce. Is the time to start this significantly worse than expected? I'm tempted to replace the card with another brand, this might be the tipping point. I'll remove MSE and try Avira instead. AMD CCC and Logitech I use for gaming, neither of which are essential at the first point where the PC is booted. Do you think it would be best to use Task Scheduler to set these to open at boot with a delay? SABnzbd.exe is a downloader program, having it run in the background is only a convenience. Same again with TS? Will do. Thanks for your help