thx for your help... but it looks like i might've already solved this one.. tried a little registry hack from the eldergeek website that forces device manager to show all devices (http://www.theeldergeek.com/show_hidden_devices_in_device_manager.htm) i'm gonna try to reformat xp32 as a fresh install to see if the hack holds or if i have to keep applying this patch manually every single time... thank you again for your quick response