@johnhc Thanks for the reply, but i sorted problem before you posted. If you look back at my post's you will see i had done clean rips several times as well as using sp3 integrated ones. Thanks for the reminder about event viewer, i have to admit i forgotten all about it.Just for information purposes i have attached the log, you will see that there are cdrom errors but they were nothing to do with nlite, in fact it was a damaged dvd by the kids that i was trying to salvage regretfully no luck, and it was also well before i started to build a new image of XP. You will also see i had no other cdrom errors. I have a feeling it copied too fast but i have no way of checking other than my ears. As regards your method of cleaning the optical drive I am afraid i don't concur with that nor would I recommend it. As the laser diode is a very sensitive piece of equipment and any scratch or mark from a brush e.t.c can render it useless. The best way and recommended way is to use compressed air you can obtain this in canister form. The above takes me back when i use to copy my kids games for them as they were so expensive to replace,you needed tiptop drives and system as some of the copy protection required a sub channel audio signature. So i do know a little about types of drives, disc's and dyes. Sorry went off topic there.... Regards System_Log.ini