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Pockins

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  1. I just asked programmers for the price for this work and they told me about 10 000 dollars, is that not way too expensive?

    It *totally* depends on what it is. Again, it comes down to the actual requirements list. It could be way too much, or way too little.

    If it's a ghetto VB6 front end to a open source command line encoder, without support, without bugfixes, without documentation, without a fancy interface, without (...) and writen by a out-of-school n00b that also happens to be in a country with dirt cheap labor... Then it's WAY too much.

    If they have to write their own codecs in assembly for just about every possible format from scratch, pay the licensing fees for every technology used, have to deliver full documentation, free bugfixes within 24h for the next decade included, including the subcontracting for usability studies and graphics artists, professionally localized in different languages (including the help and installer), and the code written by a team of guys with a PhD's from a top-ranking uni in the USA and all that, then you're at the very least missing 2 or 3 zeros.

    Then for the website (including payment processing, the back end for the updates, bug tracking, keeping track of issued licenses, etc) you can very easily blow another 10K. And another 10K would disappear VERY quickly with adwords or such e.g. just for "audio converter" you're looking at $0.42/click (fraudulent or not), and out of the estimated 1M searches for those exact terms alone, even if only 1% click it that's $4200/month (still only for a single keyword combo)...

    And that's assuming everything goes perfectly, but if you were more familiar with the software development world, you'd know that projects are hardly ever on time and on budget (and with every feature you wanted) -- it happens like 20% of the time perhaps. And most likely, there was a difference between whatever you wanted and what you asked for (99% likely) and you will have to revise your requirements (which will increase price, or they can spend the time on that instead of some other feature you wanted). Scenarios were people spent two or three times as much as originally planned before canning the whole project aren't exactly unheard of (sometimes costing hundreds of millions!) I've seen it first hand more than once. Project management is hard. Also, the next update/version won't be free either.

    This is only the very beginning. And even if everything goes right development-wise which is quite unlikely, it doesn't exactly mean it'll be a commercial success either.

    How did you know that one click cost 0.42 for audio converter? :) And how much buyers I ll get if 1000 people will visit my website?

  2. I've only had experience with 1 purchased webdesign, and it also has tons of mistakes. Anyways, you can learn a lot from mistakes, we all make them.

    Maybe, but also I think that you got much more experiences in question like this and anywa

    y can not make that much mistake that I ll do :rolleyes:

    That why I am also looking for some builders.

  3. Yes, but what go to do those guys who had never heard about HTML and other stuff?

    Dont you think that is much more eathier just to buy alreade done web product?

    I never liked the idea of buying a website design or layout, or paying a company to make a website for you. Some exceptions exist, such as if you are a large company that can afford that kind of expense. Usually, that way is a lot more expensive than doing it yourself. And lastly, in my experience, once you make a website, you're never really done with it. There are always things to add, or fix if something breaks.

    But what if I will do it buy myself with a tones mistakes?

    I ll lose lots of time :sneaky:

  4. For newbies (we were all one at some time) I think dreamweaver is best. It allows you to see the code and layout at the same time so you can get an understanding of what is what.

    Personally I still use dreamweaver along with adobe PS and a few other programs.

    What about other builder that I had suggest?

    The main point why I like them, cause the lovely customer service 24 hours in a day.

    I had asked 100 question and they give answer carefull for all my questions.

    Any ideas guys?

  5. For newbies (we were all one at some time) I think dreamweaver is best. It allows you to see the code and layout at the same time so you can get an understanding of what is what.

    Personally I still use dreamweaver along with adobe PS and a few other programs.

    What about other builder that I had suggest?

    The main point why I like them, cause the lovely customer service 24 hours in a day.

    I had asked 100 question and they give answer carefull for all my questions.

  6. If I may, I doubt that a member asking about a website builder has the experience/knowledge to know what a CMS is. :ph34r:

    Just in case:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_management_system

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_content_management_system

    jaclaz

    Thanks for the help, I thoght before that all builders got the same CMS and that they are all for free :rolleyes: That why I asked a question.

    Cause after visiting Site2you.com I figure out that they are not for free :)



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