I have been using kixtart for a while now and I love it. It is way more powerful. Our company started using it for logon scripts because we needed something that could check group membership, etc. Very powerful tool. For simple program execution I still use batch files but when I need to process data, message boxes, AD group membership, I use kixtart. In kix you can tell the script to shell out and run something directly at a command prompt such as a batch file. -Matt