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I've read all the stuff on that topic. The 2 solutions are nearly identical, but the differences are not only the ones you list : one isolates the heads, one the motor, and that is pretty much a difference.

I just need a working solution, period.

The aviko one, taking in account only the commands, seems to be less disruptive, but I really don't know which part should be isolated, motor or heads. It's impossible to get the truth between 2 people whose words to each other are insults and "you are all wrong".

Why do they fight like that ? The only result of all this will be in people's mind : "DO NOT TRUST DATA RECOVERY COMPANIES, THEY'LL TRY TO FOOL YOU IN SAYING THAT THE COMPETITOR IS LYING".

I really want to hear (or read) what is wrong in version which I suggest. Everyone who asked me got answer based on my knowledge as best as I could. All i wanted was information about real author who published these commands. Yura (also known as Okzo) worked really hard for last months to find out how to solve problem with that black series of seagate. All people who succesfully fixed own disks used commands which he publish. Of course there are commercial solutions which was developed and you can buy it or go to someone who buyed it. They worked independly and noone (as I know) grab solution from another. I am really sad because all that happened here. So much prosecution by one guy to another. Yura decided to publish these command with his own motives. I dont want to judge him is that good or not. Personally, as I work in DR company, I have much less cases with these disk after solution was published. Solution spreaded in internet and now everyone who search enough can find it and try to solve his problem. I tryed to aware you there are sifnificant errors in solution which Gradius copied and pasted here. I dont want to judge him too. He posted (or pasted) here this tutorial. Good for him. Many people could read it and fix bricked drive. He did much work too, but when someone quote another person it is nice (and should) to inform about source. Initialy he did it, but someday removed this info. Then many people who knows truth (including me) decided to something. It was not fair to pretend as author this tutorial. He compiled it and give in pill. But this pill should be good at least as in source was good. It wasnt, I tryed to change it but anything that I tryed to say was challenged by him that his tutorial is best and the only. Well if anyone who tryed "his" tutorial didnt get good results can try to contact me by instant messenger, Im using few it should be enough, all is in my profile. Thank you for reading my post to the end because I think it is my last one here. Good luck with your data. As few posts appear while i write this text I will give you all last advice. Isolating motor contacts prevents opening terminal in ES.2 and as I see new all versions of firmware rest of drives based on F3 architecture. See ya!

ok ,then way he don't publish it on forum?

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Hi all,

Ok, something new I've found out - maybe the rest of you can check/test. After I've followed the first post to fix my hard disk (by isolating PCB/HDA, then issue commands spin down, up, F3 T>i4,1,22 then power cycle, then m0,2,2,,,,,22) - I've also updated the firmware to SD1A, formatted it in Windows, and ran a checkdisk/surface scan. All looks ok. In fact I could access the data, copy them out, copy data in, access, apparently no issues.

Then I tried to use Seatools to run the SMART check, short/long DST, short/long generic, and the SMART check passed but not the short/long DST/generic tests. Those failed. I'm not sure if those failed because we erased the G-list or because of the SD1A firmware or maybe it's unique to my hard disk. So I did some googling, and then tried to use the Seatools for DOS (it comes with Seatools for Windows, just burn the ISO in 'C:\Program Files\Seagate\SeaTools for Windows' into a CD and boot from it) and ran the long DST from there. It prompted me to repair one particular LBA (after running for few hours test!) and then it looks ok now.

I've checked in Seatools for Windows and short DST/generic tests are passing now. Still running long DST/generic tests but those will take quite a while. I'm attaching two photos for reference. Now at least it's confirmed Seatools is reporting all ok.

Hope this helps!

This is because you delete g-list..

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another question on CA-42.

Once the driver installed is there always 3V on tx/rx or only when HTerminal and connection is on?

Someone could test it for me?

Thanks.

I think there's always voltage in it once the drivers are properly installed...but:

It seems there are 2 type of nokia cables. One is self-powered thru USB, one needs an external 3.3v power to work. Usually, the latter has more wires (tx, rx, data gnd, 3.3v in, 3.3v gnd, and maybe other stuff). So, maybe you just need to connect a 3v battery to it.

There is a great guide here that show you how identify and check your Nokia cable. I already posted this link so many times, I hope this would be the last one. Please take a look at older posts or do some searches, most of the common problems are already covered in this thread.

Here're my own 2 general little advices:

1. Always double check your terminal connection before plug any wire to the Seagate drive. I see many people here connecting random wires from random cables they found in their drawers. Connecting a standard straight USB cable to your HD is not a good idea.

2. If you get strange characters in the terminal window after connecting the drive, be careful at what you type in it! In my first attemp to recover my drive I got only random characters because I didn't connected the ground wire on the drive third pin, but actually, what I was typing were sent to the drive. I tested it: I was able to spin off the motor (/2 & Z) even without see nothing readable in the terminal window...

Be patient and good luck with the fix!

It seems that the post made by aviko yesterday (here points to two links that appear (from my very basic grasp of polski) to be what Gradius2 has posted. Can anyone confirm the published date on either of these two URLs, as in, were they up on the internet before January 18th 2009?

I follow this soap opera since the first early posts at the original 7200.11 Falling down thread on seagate forums.

So, chronologically:

Till 16 January 2009 we were all lost and confused and angry and many other things, then Shuky posted this on elektroda.pl forum:

http://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/viewtopic...6012404#6012404

As you can see there Nirvanowiec give him a link to:

http://yura.projektas.lt/files/seagate/720011_ES2.html

where, for the first time, were given a solution for fix the 7200.11 CC and BSY errors, by Yura. In that page (in Polish) there's no date, I think it was up since early January 2009.

Then, one day later, 17 January 2009, Shuky alias Gsustek, posted the first solution in english, based on Yura's page above, in the hddguru forum. The thread was deleted and reposted two days later. In the google cache there's still the original one:

http://209.85.129.132/search?q=cache:c_-5M...t=clnk&cd=2

I posted myself in that thread, as well as Aviko. (who also contacted me with a Pm for give help, I never answered him back, there was a bad mood there in that forum and many people were trying to misinform about those info. Still now some of them are doing that. Now I'm very sorry about it, Aviko, I was wrong. Thank you for that pm)

So we arrived at 18 January 2009, when Gradius posted his solution on this thread (based on the Shuky (gsustek)' one posted the day before) also adding that aesthetically pleasant graphic with TX and RX legend instead of ugly ascii art (the pic with the drive and tx/rx arrows insted was first posted by fatlip in the previous '7200.11 Troubles' thread) and original credit links to Yura and Shuky post, now removed.

So this are the fact by my point of view. Personally, I don't give a thing about donations or other stuff like that (actually, Gradius was and is very helpfull with many people and in many circumstances in this thread), I only think that should be right to give credit to people who saved us all.

A noticeable thing is that, now, Gradius and Aviko solutions are quite the same. Don't be confused, the only difference is that Aviko removed the command i4,1,22 because, as he explained, it isn't essential and it can damage data on the drive in some cases. He also added other commands for testing purposes only (F712,F,,22).

As you can see, this was a very long story. I really wish that there'll be a happy end now. We recovered out data, other people will recover their drive with this thread and this is really beautiful.

So, make love not war

Happy fixing!

Thank you so much..

i was crusified on hddguru forum that night, i think it was sunday..evening "+1 Zagreb" time..

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It seems Gradius's guide was posted a little over 24 hours after aviko's (in polish). Gradius should be giving credit (at the very least) to aviko and link to his original posts, otherwise I will edit the post.

Hi, all..

My nick Shuky on polish forum, here on msdn, and gsustek on hddhuru is the same person, I..

I start to exploring the internet for solution on russian, and polish forums, using google translator,..

When Nirvanowiec on polish forum answer me on my queston, i go to litvanian site and try this solution.on my st332013as 0 LBA i think before anyone..here is the proof..

http://forum.hddguru.com/solution-for-7200...t10714-120.html

then,after guys treath me so well, i create tutorial...on hddguru ,site..

Aviko, you remember me?

Croatia....Jadransko more..

Yura roools!!!!!

Okzo do all research....and deploy to site.

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remove pcb from hdd, plug terminal connectors, connect power and try to open terminal. when you got prompt repeat all but skip i4,1,22

thank you but do you mean removing the pcb totally or just the part related to the spin motor? (i tried once by just disconneting the spin motor part of the pcb and the terminal seemed not working)

I dont know who was stupid enough that told to insulating pins from motor (in original source user should insulate connector which goes to head assembly)

remove whole pcb and check that you can connect to terminal, if you can i will guide you what to do.

Now you are full of help!!!

I put isolation. Betwen motor and pcb, if motor not spining, heads are still parked ans SA can not be read !

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Kadolf

The connection you get using the sagem cable,

Are you just using the pc serial port or are you putting some power to the adapter from somewhere else,

Have you any more pin out information for how you connected it.

Thanks Anth

Hello. The cable is a simple data-cable I bought a long time ago for removing my mobile phones simlock. I don't know where it takes it's power from - I think likely from the serial port (I know, it's not build for providing power, but well, the interface seems to work?). I just searched google for a schematic of the EXAR SP232AET, unsoldered the cables leading to the SAGEM-plug and soldered two short cables to the right pins of the IC, leading to my drive.

The right command for it isn't "m0 2,2"...

It was just a typo here in the board, in HyperTerminal I entered the comma.

What catches my eye is that when I connect the faulty drive BIOS says "HDD S.M.A.R.T. Capability: NONE" - is this regular when a drive is affected by 0LBA-bug?

@Shuky: Thanks for the link, I'm going to read...

Yes,it is, i just have this sindrom zero LBA.s

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I tried the 0 LBA fix (HDD is recognized by BIOS, but as 0MB), but it doesn't seem to work:

When I input "m0 2,2,0,0,0,0,22" it takes a few seconds until the first line ("Max Wr Retries"...) shows up completly but then appears the following error message:

Error 1008 DETSEC 0000500D

User Partition Format Failed - Elapsed Time 0 mins 00 secs

R/W Sense 00000002, R/W Error 00000084, File Error 00001002

Blk Addr 01080001, Blk Addr Type D0, Cyl 01590000, Hd 00

Anyone experienced the same or can help?

EDIT: Interface is a modified Sagem data-cable with SP232AET-chipset (equal to MAX232), but this interface seems to work as it gets an answer.

read this..

http://translate.google.com/translate?prev...sl=ru&tl=en

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Hi Shuky,

Yeah I tried changing the rx and the tx but in hyperterminal i got no response at all from the CTRL Z command.

I set hyperterminal up as per Gradius's instructions, then the only change i made from then (after nothing happened the first time) was to set the ASCII setup to echo typed characters locally, so I could see the commands i was typing.

I think it may be to do with the rs232 adapter I tried to use, thats why i was wondering if anyone knew if either of the ones in the above links would be suitable.

Thanks Anth

i think those will work

but this is a lot cheaper

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MAX232-RS232-to-TTL-...%3A1|240%3A1318

you must have those zener diods to 2V7.

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Hi Guys,

Does anyone know if this rs232 ttl converter is suitable for the BSY recovery, I tried to communicate with the drive earlier with a modified cable serial from a mobile but got no response from the terminal at CTRL Z.

So i was going to order this one below, there real hard to find in the uk.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=260347113140

The same place also had this one listed

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RS232-to-5-Volt-TTL-...3A1%7C240%3A131

Not sure which if any are what i need.

Thanks Anth

pictures please of terminal., and did you try swaping tx,rx?

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I have no knowledge of the HDD electronics but looking at the instructions for making the serial connection one thing worries me a bit. I see it is suggested to use 5V for powering that circuitry. This means that the serial signal logic levels to the HDD would also be 5V. I don't know what is the I/O voltage for the IC on the HDD controller board but these days they are usually 3.3V or less. If there isn't any protection on board then using 5V levels could potentially damage the I/O pins.

I agree this schematic uses zener diodes. Probably the best way is to use USB to rs232(TTL-3V3) cable like Nokia DKU-5, consult this and this

Regards

yes, you must have zener reverse polarize diode....

this link http://hddguru.com/content/en/articles/200...pter-schematic/

my datacabel is build with these shematic for siemens x35 series cellphones,with batery was 3.6V..and successfully repair 0 LBA.-s yesterday.

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Alright everyone. The BUSY state REMOVAL WORKS PERFECTLY!

As I suspected, my friends drive was locked in BUSY state. 3 minutes (and some careful placement of the PCB board) I successfully unlocked the drive.

This drive does not have an LBA=0 issue, so I was not able to try that.

Thanks,

Fatlip

How you suspect, is bios recognize hdd?

F3 T>/C

F3 C>Q

and there is commands;)

just mining of its...

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Thanks Gradius2,

As soon as i get it up the data will be going straight onto my 1TB WD drive till I get a new drive n the STM3500320AS will be consigned to the bin, Im not prepared to risk any of my data with Seagate/Maxtor again.

Thanks Again Anth

No problem. I'll order my RS232 TTL now, but it should only arrieve after 27th.

If anyone try this guide (before than me), please comment if you had some difficulty, or something like that. The hardest part I see is to re-connect the PCB back to HDA while is still under power.

Gradius

peace of cake, just turn betwen motor connector and pcb, visit card, unscrew little bit , and thas it, it works for me.

I do this but just 0lba problem, gsustek, did you remember me? Hddguru, so, send me link to document of seagate commands.

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Great job Gradius!

And why did the guy above quote the entire fix?!

because, i am gsustek from hddguru,

and i qouted,by mistake;)

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May I ask if seagate checker says the hard disk not effected and if I follow the conclusion to continue using the hard disk and do have the hard drive broken later. Will any compenstation for this legal ground?

My ST3320613AS is also not affected, but 0 LBA is show ,and now repaired;)

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My ST3320613AS is also not affected, but 0 LBA is show ,and now repaired;)

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Fixing 0 LBA error:

To correct 0 LBA error, you'll need to do a quick format in order to regenerate the partition, just with m0,2,2 and the rest can be left blank by putting only commas or filling out with zeros. At the end you need to use a "ValidKey" code, or 22. So we'll have to enter:

F3 T>m0,2,2,0,0,0,0,22 (enter)

Gradius,

a question: Will the quick format wipe out / erase the existing data?

Thanks, Arnd

No, just use Partition recovery or "A-FF Find and Mount"

and copy your data safely..

i just yesterday do some translation recalculate , on my 0 LBA ST3320613AS.