> you hate vista, You weren't paying attention, were you? I said: >>my desktop icons to Vista style witch I hate Maybe I wasn't very clear about that, but I was pretty clear when I said: >>My taskbar, toolbar, status bar, scroll bars, menu bars, office toolbar, etc., are not changed, everything looks like >>Windows 2000 unless I turn on TrueTrans, but I don't like TrueTrans. >>I want it to look like the screenshots, exept for the colors, whitch I assume are still changeable. I want the stuff around the windows to look like the screenshots you posted. Many (not all) vista Icons look cheap and detail free, and resemble those Jell-O "jiglers" Mr. Cosby used to advertize. I prefer the icons from the '9x "plus" themes, and other downloadable themes. The rest of Vista can look very nice with the right colors.