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I use Opera 10.63, the last known 98se version. No need for KernelEx, it runs natively kernel-wise. Before that I was natively using Firefox 2.0.0.20 (never tried 2.0.0.22-beta though) and subsequently K-Meleon 1.54. Firefox was a memory hog taking time to start-up. K-Meleon was faster, but it would freeze on java-scripts on some websites. You can disable javascript but then most of the website would not work. These issues would make you tear your hair out, especially when you're using some of my slower computers (400 MHz or so) with no more than 256mb system memory max, and surfing the net on 56k dial-up. Luckily I figured I would go back to Opera and found out about 10.63. Yes, 10.63 is dated a little, not much you can do, unless you use later versions of browsers using said KernelEx, but I say it's fixed a lot of these issues and so it works very well for me. For simple browsing/surfing, I have not gone back to anything else. And 10.63 is free (well, all Opera versions are free). Opera 9x works nicely too, just a little more dated. As far as watching movie clips in 10.63, like on Youtube, I don't have an answer, because being on dial-up, I can't really do that.
One important feature that 10.63 has (and all versions since) is "Opera Turbo", a sort of browsing accelerator. This helps compresses pictures, so they upload faster to your computer from the internet, sometimes 1.5 to 6 times faster than normal. Perfect for narrowband, like dial-up. People on broadband take this for granted, so if they ever get bumped back to dial-up without some sort of accelerator, they'll be in for a slow treat. Netzero, a dial-up internet service, also feature their own accelerator, but you have to pay like $5 more than their regular service.
Anyway, try 10.63, you can find it at opera.com .
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I too still use my 1 GHz Pentium III. Actually I have two of them, same make/model, acquired over a decade ago, free from the company I used to work for (it was a promotion campaign for employees). One runs 98SE for web browsing, files, etc. The other one is in the living room, running Win 2k as a home theater pc, connected to a digital projector.
Fortunately I kept 486's. I upgraded one and is also running in the office, at the front desk no less, heh. Another is a 486SX laptop, but at only 4 MB system memory (and no way to increase it), it's a little difficult to make it run anything but Win 3.11 (Win95 works, but very very limited in scope). I also have another 486, but it's actually a 286 motherboard with a 486 CPU.
Sometimes a better way for me to find computer stuff is at Goodwill (a U.S. thrift store). I've found motherboards, monitors, harddrives, graphics/sound cards, DIMMs, hubs/switches, USB stuff, you name it. Of course you have to dig through all the crap. Thus in some ways it's more convenient and cheaper than finding stuff on eBay/Internet (i.e. no ship fees, no ship time), but that is sometimes balanced out that what you might get might need some fixing if you know how to. I had to fix an LCD monitor by replacing the caps that feed the backlight. Other than that I've been satisfied.
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Thanks for the feedback thus far. I am taking my sweet time with this and just need to know which path I will take. I don't really want to mess it up further, although whether choosing the best choice will still make it end up that way.
Yes, again, it boots and I can get into the F8 list. But choosing any of the things on the list (safe modes, CLI, last known config, debugger, VGA mode... all of them) will still eventually hang the boot less than a second after I make the choise. At another forum, some people suggest doing some cut and paste with files that may be the culprit, but the problem is knowing which file is the corrupt culprit. Perhaps really doing an error-check (chkdsk/scandsk) would be the simplest and most effective way.
Seriously, Windows 98 Scandisk (obviously on a FAT filesystem, and specifically on a overheating disk drive) and CHKDSK (most probably on a NTFS filesystem on a normally working disk drive) are two such different thiings that you can hardly compare them (the only similarity is that both have d,s and k in their name ).jaclaz
Actually I did both, scandisk in 98SE and also checkdisk in DOS, on this dying heated drive and it messed things up even more. The heat really f*cked things up to the point that no auto-repair helped and only did further damage. As I said, I still have the same drive some 10 years later in the same configuration and am in no hurry reformatting it or salvaging any surviving files to another drive. I just don't do any error-checking whatsoever because I know what will happen, heh.
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No, I really am wanting to test LAN, not Internet, speeds. I just need to see where there are any bottlenecks in the network (in this case, it's just a P2P (peer to peer)) and speed rates between PC's.
But now that I look back, I recall also installing Lanlights (by P.Mather) right after installing Speedtest. Iirc, it's also supposedly compatible with 98SE if I read the specs right. So perhaps it was Lanlights (version 1.1.14, circa 2008) and not Speedtest (1.06) that borked up my 98SE system. And yes, Speedtest supposedly also benchmarks LAN bandwidths. Anyway, I'm not about to reinstall both of them again until I'm sure which one is the culprit. I lost dialup connectivity and had a heck of a time trying to reinstall it until I found that reinstalling modem drivers first and then DUN did the trick. I even tried reinstalling most of Autopatcher (Soporific) before my discovery, which didn't help. I'm guessing Lanlights (and/or Speedtest) overwrote some files with its own versions that were incompatible with MSDUN 1.3 and 1.4 etc.
I guess what I'll do for now is just manually do my own time trials by transferring big files between PC's over the P2P and see how long they take and then "do the math".
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I was lurking this thread and wanted to post something a couple weeks ago about trying NOT to send this perfectly good working PC to the dumpster / recycler. So I too am glad you found someone to donate it to. Let's hope this "someone" won't actually scrap the PC and actually have it put to good use... as a working PC of course, not 'good use' as in "scrap metal", heh. I myself try to keep "old" PC's in working order. I have Pentium-class motherboards from the mid to late 1990's still running in my office. Good for working office apps like Office 97, et al. I try to upgrade them to the max (versus what specs they originally were when they were bought new as factory spec) to get a little more years out of them, so in effect saving tens of thousands of dollars for newer systems. Of course I have some new systems, built for XP and 7, etc, so it really depends if you need newer systems or not.
Of course, that common "Law of Usefulness" usually states that "the older the [computer] system, the less useful it becomes in the future", which means that the 8088/86's systems I still have don't get much power-on status than my later systems. Nice for playing older games and DOS stuff though.
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Actually I was also thinking of doing a checkdisk in RC, but forgot to comment/ask on it earlier. I've had two notable checkdisk experiences in the past, one negative, one positive.
A decade ago, I had the main HDD in my 98SE Pentium3 tower go bad, probably due to heat, as I know the drive got hot to the touch, almost like a CPU without a heatsink. I've since put a fan to blow on this drive and it works better, must be a bad device or two on its motherboard. It got so bad, that doing a checkdisk (actually, scandisk, within Windows) messed things up even more, some directories and files changed into random names. I lost about maybe a sixth of the contents. I still have the drive, so I can get to some files that I need, but I will not do a check/scan disk on it as I know it will further go downhill, even if the temps are normal. If I ever get off my a** and copy the salvaged parts to another drive, I could probably reuse and reformat it (with a fan on it now of course).
The positive one was about 1 or 2 years ago, I was given my niece-inlaw's Win7 laptop to look at because some files and execs weren't functioning right. I did some research online first to be sure before I did any surgery. A checkdisk at bootup did the trick. Took awhile but it seems about 99.99% of the files were saved. I told them to do an checkdisk (error-check) on a regular basis, once a week or so.
So now I'm wondering if doing an RC scandisk first is worth it than the cut-n-paste. Hmm...
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1. The system boots so there is no reason to mess with the MBR.
2. There is no usuall size, it differs from system to system (some MBs anyway).
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And would doing the copy and paste method you have demonstrated be riskier if I do that from another PC, with this drive mounted in a USB drive enclosure?I suppose it's about the same thing.
4.If it worked untill now the origin doesn't make any difference.
Ok, I won't mess with boot or mbr... for the moment. I don't know what you mean in #4, what worked and origin, etc.
Fixboot/Fixmbr has nothing to do with it. You're getting a "Safe Mode" selection screen. Interestingly, since you get that far, it begs the question - HOW if SYSTEM is "corrupt"?
The registry keys to boot into Safe Mode are under the SafeBoot key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SafeBootThere is NO particular "size" to it. It all depends on your Configuration.
Yup, no idea if it's System at all. It just stops at that line "blahblahblah\system" when booting with the debugger. It could be the next file in, whatever it is, that could be stopping it.
You initially said you did a "scandisk" - I assume you mean "chkdsk"? Indications MAY be that the "ckdsk" found errors in the location that "SYSTEM" is. (EVEN THOUGH you state there was no error.)Well, whichever it is, it's called Error-checking in XP. And yes, everything was ok. I did the check... level 1... level 2... level 3... done, no errors. Then I shut down the laptop normally. But now if I recall correctly, I normally rebooted and it was ok. I left the room for an hour or so, with the laptop on, and when I returned, there it was, a blue screen. I did not jot down the error, because I get BSOD's from time to time and hard booting usually it reboots normally. Anyway, it must have been like that (bsod) for a while. That could've been what happened. I did not remember that when I originally posted here and I hope that is the correct recollection.
HarryTri (and I see they posted JUST before me) isn't far off from what needs to be done. I would personally RENAME the "original" to "SYSTEM.XXX" (any one not currently existing). This SHOULD get you up-and-running. You can do the "rename+copy/paste" with a (e.g.) Live Linux CD in the existing computer without actually pulling it out. It would beat using a downloaded Recovery Console (not as limited and has a file browser). Best bet is to find the "SYSTEM" backup in the Restore/"snapshot" (as described above) folder. I believe it will be found in the "System Volume Information" folder within folder_restore{abunchofnumbers}\RPanumber\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SYSTEMalong with the other "special" registry files. Find the one with the HIGHEST date of whichever folders you find. This COULD apply to ANY of those files that MAY have caused you to "fail"
See this - http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=36078.115;imode.
HTH
Hmm, that's a lot to digest, hopefully I can figure it out. I don't have Linux and hopefully won't need it. Having only dialup nowadays doesn't help either if I have to download huge amounts of stuff. I've never really delved into the restoration folders, so I don't understand the files therein. I shall check that Avast link too. Thanks both.
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I haven't done anything yet. Would trying "fixboot" and/or "fixmbr" first be riskier, and end up killing the entire boot process? Hard to say if "system" is the culprit yet, but what is the usual byte size of this file? And would doing the copy and paste method you have demonstrated be riskier if I do that from another PC, with this drive mounted in a USB drive enclosure?
And does it matter where I downloaded RC from? I assume there's really no different versions of it. As aforementioned, I got this one at Computerparamedic.
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Does anyone recommend a program(s) for testing LAN/network bandwidths/speeds under 98SE? Freeware if possible.
I installed SpeedTest 1.06 (by Absolute Futurity) and it didn't seem to work, I think it broke (or borked) my DUN (dial up networking) setup, so I had to reinstall modem drivers and DUN (including DUN 1.4 patch) to get it to work properly again. I am not about to try reinstalling it.
Thanks.
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Yes, got your PM.
Ok so maybe PicoRT may not be the right tool for you, it's probably only for Zip, idk. Like I said, I haven't used it in years. I perused my drives and I found the last time I used it was in 2002, so that's 11 years ago, and an older version at that, although it seems their latest version is really only a year later than mine, in 2003. I took a look around in http://picozip.com/prt/index.html and did not really see anything about Rar, so yeah, not sure. I have not downloaded the latest version yet. You can try contacting them with your issue.
So if Pico won't work, I did a Google, see if these help: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=password+recovery+tool+rar&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
Lastly, as long as you got at least a Pentium, the process shouldn't take that long for these tools to recover, versus on a 80486 or older.
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Hi folks, my old XP-Home (SP3) laptop stops booting sometime before the boot logo appears. Ironically this happened after I did a scandisk in my last login session, and the scan was good. It is the Blank-Screen-of-Death type of error I'm seeing. I am able to get into the F8 list though, but trying all the options there (last known config, safe modes, etc) all end up the same, the dark blank screen. Trying out the debugger on the list, I see the booting process stops at \system. Recovery is not on the F8 list. I downloaded the RC ISO from computerparamedic.com and have yet to CD burn it. Is that all I need? I have never tried the Recovery Console in all my life, and so in this case, I am a true newbie. Could RC be my savior?
Before I start I am going to move the disk to a USB drive enclosure to take a peek, just to make sure nothing weird is going on, like all my contents are gone or something. I cannot fathom this to be malware, probably just a glitch... I hope. It has not been connected to the Internet in over a week, or so.
I've also posted at a couple other forums to get as much info as possible. Formatting, of course, is my last possible resort (would need to buy a new drive too as I don't want to lose contents on affected drive). Anyway, any help appreciated, thanks.
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Well, I had past success finding a lost password for a zip file I had using PicoZip. Took maybe a minute or so to retrieve it, so I guess it's going to depend on your password complexity. It's been years since I used it, but now that you've reminded me, I still have a few more secure compressed files that I've lost passwords on, so I think I'll download PZ again and try it. Per the feature list, it should handle .rar. Good luck and let us know.
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I have actually done a modem-to-modem communication/connection before using a modem on each computer and a telephone cable. But the kicker is that I did this back in the early 1990's and it was with my two Commodore 64's with 1200 baud modems (model 1670). I used terminal software and BBS programs. So effectively it was like hooking directly as a client to a BBS.
Another way might be to use Symantec's PCAnywhere. I had (and still have) it and mainly used it to hook up from one PC to another over 10 years ago, but only remotely by dialing up the other PC somewhere in another building. Your phone company is the middle man. You can then remotely use the other PC's drive and desktop just like if you were there. A little slow on dialup but you can get the job done. It's been awhile since I used it, but there is a chance it can do what you're asking, i.e. a phone cable link. The problem with this solution is that this is commercial software and I don't think it's on the market anymore (it's probably second-hand on eBay).
I have never tried the aforementioned Direct Cable method. From what I recall you can use serial and parallel ports. Not sure about modems and phone cabling. Infrared also would work but that would mean both PC's infrared sensors have to be close and in line with each other.
Anyway I'm sure it can be done, there's probably specialized software to do it. I haven't had any need to do it since the days of my C64's so I have no modern day experience.
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If you're subscribed to any threads, are you getting e-mail notifications of new posts in those threads?Well other than the fact that many forum posts are now gone forever because of the crash (last posts set back to mostly around June 02), everything SEEMS ok here.
No, because I don't subscribe.
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That forum server sql database crash a few days ago really did some damage. There was a bunch of great advice and posts in here. Now it's back to only 2 posts (and back to June 02, etc). Oh well.
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Well other than the fact that many forum posts are now gone forever because of the crash (last posts set back to mostly around June 02), everything SEEMS ok here.
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Opera 10.63 is my best browser in a non-KernelEx 98SE system. Before, I was using Firefox 2.0.0.20 and K-Meleon 1.54, and IE6, but all these had their quirks. FF felt bloaty and took awhile to load. KM just couldn't handle Javascript and kept freezing on some websites, even this one at MSFN. And IE6 was just too 'old'. I haven't really been using Seamonkey 1.1.19. so can't comment on it, but I know it's sort of a successor of the last Mozilla'd NetScape I think (NS was my fave browser in the late 1990's).
So far Opera 10.63 has been handling all the websites pretty easily, especially on this old system I'm typing this up on, a Socket 7 with a 400MHz AMD K6-III and 256MB PC66 dimm memory. Yes, due to the 'slow' CPU, it chugs along. Can't play Youtube or anything like that, but we only mostly use it for surfing and MS Office 97 stuff, because I'm on dialup.
Since I have the skins set to 'Windows Native Skin', I haven't had the need for any of the updated msimg32's. Skins, even with Revolutions Pack, can sometimes slow things down just a touch on 400MHz, so I also have that set to classic desktop theme in RP.
Here's a post I made about a couple months ago about Opera (starting at post #821):
I've also migrated to the latest Opera (currently ver 12.14) on my XP and Seven systems. The main advantage that Opera has apart from other popular browsers (including in 10.63), is the Turbo mode, which compresses images, etc. This makes things even faster, especially on dial-up. Netzero, the popular dialup ISP which I use, had this feature first years ago, but you had to shell out a few more extra bucks (USD) per month to use that feature. I've never tried it, but these days in the last few years with Opera's Turbo, it's all free anyway. Because of this turbo mode, among other things, I've never really gone back to current Firefox, IE, et al. Firefox was my browser of choice in the ~2002-2007 range, iirc.
In summary, I like 10.63 because it handles javascript well, makes good use of pc's memory (i.e. not bloaty and slow) and has the compression feature. And I don't really use KernelEx. It was sad when v11.00 and up couldn't work in 98SE natively anymore.
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I see the list hasn't been updated since last year. So my question is, what exactly is Opera 10.66, as is shown on the list? I googled a little bit and it seems to be known only in Russian. Or is this mainly a typo?
If that is the case, then am I correct in that Opera 10.63 is the last compatible version for stock 98SE (i.e. without any kernel patches/mods)? If not, then what is 10.66, where can I download it, and will I be able to install that? Or what exactly is the last compatible version? I tried 11.00 but that wouldn't install. There is no 10.66 at Opera.com for windows, although I did not check under other O/Ses, if that is where it is.
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Hey all,
Is there a way to make the network (LAN) status tray icon show up in Win 95? I have ver. B/OSR2. I tried Lan Lights (by Paul Mather, I think), but it didn't work. I forget why, I uninstalled it awhile ago. And Tihiy's network icon (IPTest) only works on 98.
Thanks.
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I recently installed 98SE, via retail CD, to one of my 486 systems, so basically it's all virginal. I'd like to know what TCP/IP patches I could update it to. I am in a situation where I only have about 160MB of harddrive space left (2 drives, 80MB free on each), so I do not have the luxury to install something like say, Soporific's Autopatcher, so as to patch everything, let alone only TCP/IP stuff. Microsoft Update won't help either as we all know that website is gone as well. I will or may need this to see if it can optimize its connection to a LAN system. It has a 10mbps network interface card (ISA). Can't say if there's any problems at all yet, and not sure what Microsoft network patches there are just to keep it as updated as it can/will be. Thanks.
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Have you read this yet? >> http://www.pcpr.org/rtwlanres-dll-error.php
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Sorry but I had to start a new topic because iv been having and annoying error which relates to the realtek 8187 chipset.
The following is to the error, this program has peroformed an illegal operation and will shut down. My drivers are fine, it works without opening the rtwlan program.
But when the program is opened it will cause this error, I hit close and the program terminated. If I dont hit close it will stay open and work just fine, but I'll have that error which I cant close or it will terminate the program. I need this program to switch from network to network.
Here is my error details, I'v already tried reinstalling it and have tried using kernelEX in win2k and winxp. But this software should support win98se because i check the sys requirments.
RTWLAN caused an invalid page fault in
module RTWLAN.EXE at 0167:0041df77.
Registers:
EAX=00000000 CS=0167 EIP=0041df77 EFLGS=00010286
EBX=00000001 SS=016f ESP=02a0fca4 EBP=00659be0
ECX=ffffffff DS=016f ESI=004a5ddf FS=49a7
EDX=02a0fcc0 ES=016f EDI=00000000 GS=4916
Bytes at CS:EIP:
f2 ae f7 d1 2b f9 8b f7 8b d9 8b fa 83 c9 ff f2
Stack dump:
0065af10 00000000 00000001 bff7dafa bffcd490 00000004 81cdce08 54535953 435c4d45 65727275 6f43746e 6f72746e 7465536c 7265535c 65636976 63545c73
UPDATE ---- The only issue I have left is this. Other then this problem my system would be error free. I'm not sure if its related but my win98se will shutdown perfect but hangs when trying to restart it (hangs on shutdown screen when restarted)
It does this even if my wifi adapter isnt plugged in. I tried a number of MS patches already, If I can get these problems fixed i'll be set for good.
What is the make and model of this Wifi card? Is this an addon PCI/ISA card for desktop PC's? There could be a conflict with another driver or app (or maybe even another hardware installed). Or you could be using a driver that is not quite right. Looking in Device Manager might also help.
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Subject matter: Icon creation for RP
HI all, haven't been here in awhile. I love RP, however, some of the icons don't look or work well when switched to 8 bpp icons (256-color), especially the ones for Vista. It's all scratchy and pixelly because of the color translation. I would like to know how to create 8-bpp optimized icons and then put them into a DLL, such as one required for RP. The first part I pretty much know how to do, the latter (DLLs), I don't know how. Well unless someone here has already developed 8 bpp icons that look better than the ones packed stock in RP? Or maybe there's something I'm overlooking?
I require this because a couple of my old videocard and monitor combinations can only run in 256-color at the higher resolutions, such as 1280x1024 (and the lcd monitors' native resolution is the same). Thanks.
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Exactly what are the annoyances? No problems here accessing mail.yahoo.com in k-meleon browser 1.5.4, with noscript enabled, on dialup, 98se, amd k6-iii 400 mhz box. If I try to use the "block javascript (F7)" in k-meleon instead of noscript then the page keeps refreshing itself. That could be one of the annoyances you're referring to. I have not tried Google mail or whatever.
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Yes and yes. Which version of KMeleon? I'm not sure how you're installing it if you're having problems. I've loaded different skins in the past.
However, after using K-Meleon 1.54 recently for 2-3 years, I was flustered with it because it couldn't handle javascript very well, among other little issues. I went back to Opera, running version 10.63, the last version for native 98SE, as I mentioned in an earlier post. I have never gone back to K-Meleon, even the later beta versions.
Try Opera 10.63 instead, it's much more stable (and relatively newer) than K-Meleon 1.54... and most importantly, you don't even need KernelEX...
http://www.opera.com/download/guide/?os=qnx&ver=10.63&os=qnx&ver=10.63