It's true, it could be a poor way to do it in the future. However I don't foresee Microsoft making any changes like that to XP, especially after SP3 is out. Vista might be another question, but for now I'm not too worried about it. We don't really roll out a lot of Vista machines. We are based (for now) in a very... simple town, to put it nicely. It's a logging community that grew, basically. Lots of old retired lumberjacks with various missing apendages. For now, so it's not so rube goldberg, I'm using the net stop method. What we're doing is very basic, so I'm not worried. Thanks for the input though, I'll definitely keep it in mind in the future! Jon