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both nlite and vlite worked on vista for me. I had home basic on here and purchased ultimate, it worked in both with no issues. are you running an vLite'd vista? a useful package or two could have been removed.

Alright. Under some anonymous tip of increasing your USB freq. poll from 125hz to (whatever) I read about how it does this and that, supposed to help with scroll movement for mouses. ect. What I didn't read was that it was mean't for USB mice only, and sometimes, some items don't like it. Some mice are okay to exceed the standard for, and some aren't. In order to change it in XP you have to download software to do it, it's not something easily done without it (as far as I know) but in nLite, you can change it. Nice. So I took this chance and made a build of XP with a poll of 1000hz... and I killed my gamepad. Sure... it was only a $10 logitech dual action, but now I can't play any of my games until I buy a new one. So yeah, I killed my gamepad and now every time you plug it in to any system (2000, xp, 2003, vista, various linux) they all come out with a power surge issue. until you unplug it any other usb devices won't work. So... when changing your frequency on your usb in nLite, make sure you know what you're doing. After killing my gamepad, i read up on it some more. I did afterwords what I should have done first off... and found out it's kinda risky. Ah, well, learned my lesson.

I tired everything you mentioned. Evidentally in RC1, on this laptop, it worked fine! 1. The laptop is too old by standards for them to care about making a vista driver 2. I tried win 2000, xp drivers from various ESS chipsets... nothing. 3. I had it install the driver from the vlite'd version, and it worked until I restarted. then I had to go to device manager and disable and then enable it and it would work fine. but that's an unacceptable method for me. I was running ePSXe in 1024x768. Recently since then, with XP and Omega drivers, I have seen a beneficial increase in performance. Plus, since I recompiled a Nlite version of XP and seen how quickly it runs, I am convinced that the version I was using before must have had a glitch somewhere from the work I did to Nlite it which is the reason why it was slow, and it seemed that vista was running quicker. In reality, from the way I had vista run on the laptop, the speed was acceptable (and the graphics for Glide and D3D were more so increased than even now with my new xp and the awesome omega drivers) but not insane. (of course!) It was fun and interesting to try.

well... as I tested it out for almost a day, doing my normal activities (internet, downloading, installing, uninstalling, playing around, games ect.) I noticed that it seemed to run very well. I just got tired of the fact that my audio driver was having issues. I tried using various other ESS Allegro PCI WDM drivers to no avail. so i've given up on vista for my laptop. it's too old, specifically for the audio driver. if SOMEONE could make it lol then that would be different. in any case, to feed my curiosity if seeing that vista would run on 256MB 1GHZ laptop, it does... and it does pretty well. (keep in mind the iso was shrunk from over 2.5GB down to 740MB!) As I type, bartpe is loading from my usb drive (staples and radioshack are good places to look for 1GB and 2GB drives) and I'm going to reinstall XP. anyways... I'll still be cruising around here if anybody has any questions.

oh, I have three partitions. one is for windows and some program files. the second is for audio, video, and a 4 GB max page file. overkill, but I don't need the space that bad. then the third partition is for my games and things.

I'm not doing anything on my laptop right now that I wasn't doing on it when I had XP. basically, just Word, documents, my games, and the net. Not looking or trying to run something I couldn't or didn't run in XP. The idea is that on an older system, just to 'run' vista would be sllooooowwww. that's the idea. but I vLite'd it and as far as performance goes, it seems to display window contents quicker and generally run the same doing the same things I did with XP. I wanted the more reliability factor of vista. oh, and the flashy colors. I never used a benchmark utility on my computer with XP. so there would be no point of reference to judge for.

yes, please, any idea could be helpfull ! btw, is your vista 32 or 64 bits ? I just made a nice long post about it. 32 bit. I think the fact that the drivers for all of my hardware are smaller than today's computers and so is helping a bit. I have no clue if that's true, but just a guess by checking out their file sizes.

K. So here it is. This is going to be long, but bear with me. I'm throwing out as much info as I can. Compaq Evo N600c Laptop 1.076Ghz PIIIm (P3-Mobile) 2 x 128MB PC133 So-Dimm = 256MB Ram 60GB ATA/100 HDD ATI Mobile Radeon 16MB SGRAM, at 1024 x 768 x 16 bit. (not shared memory.) AGP 4x I had been playing with nLite and XP Pro SP2 for the last 7 months. Sometimes making a new installation on a given day and sticking with it for a week, or playing again and sticking with that for a month. Eventually getting something around 382MB iso. after about a solid month of using this stable and fast build, it's memory footprint was somewhere around 80 to 90 MB when not running anything but what I had installed. Which was Magicdisc (virtual drive mounter), a modified vista inspirat pack , and the normal background stuffs for my installed drivers. Back to Vista. I had been using it for the last two months on my girlfriend's laptop, getting accustomed to it. In XP, for WHATEVER reason, even if the only daily thing I do is visit the SAME sites, and do the same things, it tends to bog and slow down over time. I noticed her computer was behaving normally. I thought that since I saw no beneficial increase in performance from squeezing xp down to bare bones plus graphics lol, that maybe I could do something with vista and have it work semi decent. My results seem to be (about 6 hours into running it) much better than I anticipated. I had to reinstall vista on my girlfriend's laptop, because for some unknown reason, under normal firefox surfing, and then shutting it down, it would restart but with no desktop. black background and taskmanager open. insteresting. I tried to figure out what was wrong but just reinstalled "Windows Anytime Upgrade" Vista from boot up. For an example, hers is Home Basic unmodified, and has a memory usage of around 480MB (footprint I guess) with nothing running. I know it sounds "funny" to run vista on something like this, but so far, after a couple of hours, it's running very sweet. Some major differences to the speed of XP though, and I definately don't mean in a bad way. minimizing and maximizing windows is faster. running ePSXe (playstation emulator) I have achieved better overall results at a higher resolution and with better sound options. (using the same plugins but with more intensive settings) I know, I'm quite appauled (sp?) right now that it's running as FAST and as happy as it is. My only issue is that my ESS Allegro sound driver doesn't startup correctly. I have to disable and enable the sound driver every time I logon to get it to work. Any ideas? I uninstalled, reinstalled, and have tried the manager's way of searching the net for the best driver but it tells me the one I have is most current. I'm going to play around with drivers later. anyways. here's an edited version of my vLite settings. rather than tell you what I removed, it's actually easier to tell you what I kept. I can pull up my vLite and it'll show me what's still left in the install files but I didn't save my settings to anything so I can't show you what I removed. Accessories System Information Hardware Support Smartcards Windows Image Aquisition Windows Portable Devices Multimedia Screensavers Shell event sounds Wallpapers Windows Aero Theme Windows Calendar Windows Media Codecs Windows Photo Gallery Network Windows Firewall Services Application Experience Desktop Window Manager Diagnostics Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) Multimedia Class Scheduler Secondary Logon Task Scheduler Universal Plug and Pray Volume Shadow Copy System Disk Defragmenter Help IMAPIv2 Burning Software Malicious Software Removal Tool Manual Install (setup.exe) Microsoft HTML engine Performance Counters Reliability and Performance Monitor System Restore Windows Backup Windows Defender Zip folder that's a total of 33 things left. I managed to downplay the DVD image from over 2GB to down to 762,496 KB. I'm sure I could have squeezed a couple more megs out of it, but I didn't want to risk taking something I "thought" I wouldn't need and turns out would have. anyhoo... I use firefox 2 and Winamp, so that's why the MS stuff is gone. I was able to add in my drivers, the only driver that actually went in was the audio. the video driver and wireless card (PCMCIA Dlink Airplus G DWL-630 802.11b/g revision C2) both did not work. I had to download Dlink's "vista beta" drivers and install the video driver while connected to the net from the device manager. In any case... right now I'm running winamp playing some 256kb/s MP3s with no visualizations and my memory stats is staying right around 187-190 MB with 115 of that cached. about 5-10% fluctuating CPU usage. So I grabbed vLite. With my knowledge of nLite, it was cake. modified it by adding drivers and removing things, and then transfered it to my 1GB flash drive and booted and installed off of it. Oh, btw. "Windows Vista" theme, Vista Basic color scheme. I have the visual effects set to the fast default, but with drop shadows and smoothed edges of fonts. visual styles on the windows and buttons too. next thing that is up is that I'm going to find a program to capture my screen image and record it. so I can visually show what's going on and how well it performs. Some may be skeptical of how well it's running. it's not blistering fast, but it's much faster than I thought Vista would have ever run on a 1Ghz P3M with 256MB of PC133 ram. Questions? Comments? I think it just melds with my hardware (except the sound driver bug) very well, and that's the reason it's doing well. ~ PS: edit... um, nothing bad to post, but thought I should mention that when I say FAST, I mean that it's running at the same speed of operating and running the same programs I used in my version of XP as what I have of Vista right now. some things are noticeably faster, and some are slightly faster. it's about a 30 second wait (timed it) from turning the power button on to being at the logon screen. I have no clue how well that fares...

My memory footprint starts out around 200mb, drops down to 100MB - 107MB, and then after running some programs and closing them out, hovers around 160. Keeping the task manager open, I used WinRAR to uncompress a 500+MB file and my memory usage was only around 180MB. (cpu usage was around 90%-100% though lol) anyways. going to make a new thread. got vista working pretty well on this "older" laptop. some people might inquire. (with a list of what I've done, what I have, and everything. pics too. but you have to wait.) ~

Hey all. Born and raised west coast US. I'm not religiously biased, I'm not racist, and I'm not dumb... but I'm not a super know-it-all. But more than enough to get me by. I don't know it all, I know a little bit of everything, very much of some things, and come here to converse and learn in a educative manner. I follow the rules... (mostly) off topic in the OT section, and everything else where it belongs. ect. weee. Some things I can advise/help others with: system recovery (by whatever means. bootable whathaveyous and new/old school methods.) building/modding/repairing soldering basic linux howto and other stuff. Outside of the computer world I'm into video games, tattoos, automotive (more-so than computers) and my beautiful and intriguing female counterpart. Yes. I'm a geek. Yes, I will toy, tweak, and play with things. But no... I am not a hacker. I don't have the time, patience, or want to risk playing around with anything past what is digitally stored on my computers. Um... any interesting stickies? I'm going to go cruise the forums. should anybody read this and want help with something I mentioned that I am knowledgeable in, go ahead and pm or email me. happy to help. ~