Thanks gosh I will try what you have sugested, will take some time as i am not sure how to do some of that so I have a learning curve. I have a link to the dump file of explorer but it's 250mb, I need a way to narrow this down. (Wiping and reinstalling is starting to look like the easy way out) sorry about the lenghth of the earlier post wont happen again. I will update if i make any progress. Thanks for the help. http://khem.files-upload.com/378366/PID-38...2007-0.dmp.html