The problems I have... are problems I already had in version 7, but are still in 8: 1. When shutting down windows, I get an error in explorer.exe. Not all the time, but it's quite often. 2. When I get errors like that, I sometimes get a window asking me if I would like to report the error to microsoft. I've only seen screens like that in windows XP, never on a ME machine, so it has to do with 'upgraded' files that are not in the official upgrade. 3. The problem usually comes up with explorer.exe, but sometimes also kernel files. Just.. strange files that I know are just updated files. It's ok to update, but it's not foolproof, since my machine has a problem with it. I did a clean installation of ME before I tried that beta7 installation. Then it was messed up. I installed IE6 after that, to get at least a 'normal' IE installation.... Is that something that canbe included in those upgrades? (a full IE6 installation)