Score one for the haters! I'm a loyal tweaker myself. And I still believe in tweaking. (My biggest disapointment in Vista is in how much control they've taken away and oversimplified, like defragging. Sure streamline the GUI, but give up an advanced tab to get back to those controls.) But I turned off all the services recomended and have some funny behavior now. The control panel won't open anymore. And in the start menu my documents folder and others still cascade, but 'control panel' says it's empty. What did I do? I'm going through and turning things back on to try to fix it now. But I can't go to a restore point short of moving files from DOS. I'm sure I turned off just one service too many. Anybody have an idea which needle I need in that haystack? Thanks. -Nimble (Yes, I feel foolish. And you can say "I told you so.")