I figured out what the problem was ... I changed the TTF info | removed the path and capatalized VERDANA.TTF and it worked. The 1 issue that I have now is that when I save it as siggy.jpg a lot of people can't see it. (I can see it fine) -- but the same people who couldn't display mine couldn't display other sigs on this board. To fix the issue I renamed the file to siggy.png and changed the .htaccess to reflect the same, then everyone could see it. Could that problem be with local side browser settings? Just curious since it appears that their browsers were having a problem displaying a .png file as an actual .jpg when it wasn't. My firebird and IE6 both displayed it properly though.