Why bother matey, Vista RC1 build 5728 is available for download and you'll probably won't have problems with it since it has more improvements from RC1 5600 B) downloadiing now but canot see nero working with it but ill let you all know thanx m8 no i downloaded windows vista rc1 build 5728 and installed it and i tryed nero 6 but still the same there has got to be a way around this now im geting unabule to load plugin manager so i cliclick ok and it pops up agan and i click ok agan and it works but its just that now do you think i need a plugin pack for it i got it working thax for your help i installed nero 6.0.0.13 thats when i was geting that plugin error so i updated that to nero 6.0.0.15 and it works perfeckt thanx