[98 SE SP 2.1]

98 SE SP 2.1

Hello Gape:

I just noticed the update on Major Geeks.

http://www.majorgeeks.com/UNOFFICIAL_Windo...Pack_d4131.html

I know it will be a Great piece of Service Pack Software; just as you've done before.

I'll update soon.

Later

WatcherSea

[Sysedit.exe does not open/run?]

Hello MDGx:

You know as well as I do that one reason that we do not reinstall is because we can keep the original Windows install up and running.

There are a lot of reinstalls performed by people just because a problem could not be solved and a reformat and reinstall seems to be the easiest answer.

If people would learn to back up the Windows partition before trying out new software, it word be a much happier world.

This applies to every operating system out there and if any wisdom can be shared to everyone who looks after a computer would be " Save before you try any new program, hardware or just making adjustments to an operating system " and of course make regular data backups as well [ Please verify that the backups are complete and are actually usable ]

Wisdom button now off.

Later

WatcherSea

["press any key to boot from cd" message]

I am going to assume that you have a computer that will not allow you to boot from the CD?

I will also assume that you have looked in the bios and the option to boot the computer from a CD does not exist.

The easiest way is to put the Madboot Diskette into the diskette drive that will allow you to boot from the CD.

Download link :

http://www.madboot.com/

http://www.madboot.com/bootdisk/MAD/MADBOOT.exe Direct Download.

OR

Ultimate Boot Disk

http://www.startdisk.com/Web1/ubd/ubd.htm

http://www.madboot.com/bootdisk/MAD/MADBOOT.exe Direct Win 98 download

http://members.cox.net/startdisk/UBD/get/MEUBD.exe Direct for Win ME download

WatcherSea

[Sysedit.exe does not open/run?]

eidenk:

Just an FYI: My Win 98 partition is over 5 years old!!! I have no idea what all I have installed and removed in all that time:

Here is a list of the installation date from SIW (System Info) 1.50 (Build 580):

http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4387.html

Operating System

Windows 98 Second Edition

OEM non upgrade version

OEM Version

Kernel Version: 4.10.2222.2225

Security: 128 bits

Updates: W98.SE Windows 98 Second Edition Q273991 Update Windows 98 Second Edition Q259728 Update Windows 98 Second Edition Q256015 Update Windows 98 Q249863 Update Windows 98 Second Edition Q260067 Update Windows 98 Second Edition Q273017 Update Windows 98 Second

Win98.SE Windows 98 Q249973 Update Windows 98 Second Edition Q238453 Update Windows 98 VTCP.386 Update Windows 98 Second Edition Q239887 Update

W98 Windows 98 Q245729 Update Windows 98 Q314147 Update Windows 98 Q323255 Update Windows 98 Q323172 Update Windows 98 Q329115 Update Windows 98 Q811630 Update

W98.TELNET Windows 98 TELNET Update

Serial Number: Operating System

Windows 98 Second Edition

OEM non upgrade version

OEM Version

Kernel Version: 4.10.2222.2225

Security: 128 bits

Updates: W98.SE Windows 98 Second Edition Q273991 Update Windows 98 Second Edition Q259728 Update Windows 98 Second Edition Q256015 Update Windows 98 Q249863 Update Windows 98 Second Edition Q260067 Update Windows 98 Second Edition Q273017 Update Windows 98 Second

Win98.SE Windows 98 Q249973 Update Windows 98 Second Edition Q238453 Update Windows 98 VTCP.386 Update Windows 98 Second Edition Q239887 Update

W98 Windows 98 Q245729 Update Windows 98 Q314147 Update Windows 98 Q323255 Update Windows 98 Q323172 Update Windows 98 Q329115 Update Windows 98 Q811630 Update

W98.TELNET Windows 98 TELNET Update

Serial Number: removed

Product Key: removed

Product Name: Microsoft Windows 98

Owner: removed

Organization: removed

Plus! Version: IE 5 6.0.2800.1106

User Name: removed

ComputerName: removed

Language: English (United States)

Installation Time: 03/06/2001 15:17:02.000

Running Time: 12 minutes

Active Desktop: Installed

removed

Product Key: removed

Product Name: Microsoft Windows 98

Owner: removed

Organization: removed

Plus! Version: IE 5 6.0.2800.1106

User Name: removed

ComputerName: removed

Language: English (United States)

Installation Time: 03/06/2001 15:17:02.000

Running Time: 12 minutes

Active Desktop: Installed

I haved " removed " any private info.

If it's that important eidenk, I will do a fresh install to satisfy your curiosity? This however will not answer why my list is so large when I run " sysedit.exe " but does it really matter???

Let me know.

WatcherSea

[Sysedit.exe does not open/run?]

I never did a clean install. I am still using the same Win 98 installation with SP2 and Win 982ME.

I have no plans at this time to do a fresh install. I could back up and do it. It would be for interest sake rather then anything else since Win 98 is working correctly.

Talk soon.

WatcherSea.

[Sysedit.exe does not open/run?]

Don't know guys? I never did start from scratch. I Applied the updates to an existing Win 98 computer.

Who knows, could be some install form days gone by.

In any case. it now works.

Something to keep in the back of our minds if someone else runs across the same mystery.

Thanks for the input and help.

Talk soon.

WatcherSea

[Sysedit.exe does not open/run?]

You'll find Process Explorer very handy.

I have used this very tool (as well as others such as Taskinfo, PrcView and Current Process to confirm what I was reading with Process Explorer) to post the list of modules loaded by sysedit.exe on my system.

What I cannot understand is why our two lists are so broadly different.

Maybe one of us does not use the the Process Explorer tool properly...

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Don't know what to tell you. Maybe it's because you are running ME.

To get the list all you have to highlight " Sysedit.exe " in the upper pane. The shortcut for the lower pane to show the DLL view is Ctrl + D.

Make sure the lower pane is showing.

To save the list, Ctrl + A and save the file. Open the saved file to see the list thats in the lower pane.

WatcherSea.

[Sysedit.exe does not open/run?]

Just noticed on your list that KERNEL32.DLL has been updated to V 4.90.3000 while mine has a version of 4.10.0000.2225?

It has been updated to nothing as I am using Win ME as I have written. I think that if you replace Kernel32.dll, your system most probably won't work at all anymore.

What tool are you using to list the modules loaded by Sysedit.exe ? Your list looks more like what is loaded by Explorer.exe.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Opps , missed that you were running Win ME.

To get the list, download " Process Explorer " from Sysinternals:

http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/ProcessExplorer.html

Couldn't find that version of Kernel32.dll on the Win ME CD any ways.

You'll find Process Explorer very handy.

Later

WatcherSea

[Sysedit.exe does not open/run?]

Hi WatcherSea,

Just to let you know I am using Win98SE's Sysedit on Win ME IE5.5 SP2 (+ Q867282 Security Update) without problem.

As well, on my system, Sysedit loads only the following Microsoft modules :

ADVAPI32.DLL  4.90.3000

GDI32.DLL  4.90.3000

KERNEL32.DLL  4.90.3000

OLE32.DLL  4.71.3328

OLEAUT32.DLL  2.40.4275

USER32.DLL 4.90.3001

VERSION.DLL 4.90.3000

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

After fresh restart, same amount of dll's opened with Sysedit.exe

Just noticed on your list that KERNEL32.DLL has been updated to V 4.90.3000 while mine has a version of 4.10.0000.2225?

I guess I will extract this 4.90.3000 from the Win ME CD. This could have been the cause all along.

I'll have to try some time but not today, but I will let you know.

Later

Watcher

P.S. Is there a list of all files that are changed out? Wonder if any others got missed? Wonder why this one file got missed?

[Sysedit.exe does not open/run?]

Hi WatcherSea,

Just to let you know I am using Win98SE's Sysedit on Win ME IE5.5 SP2 (+ Q867282 Security Update) without problem.

As well, on my system, Sysedit loads only the following Microsoft modules :

ADVAPI32.DLL  4.90.3000

GDI32.DLL  4.90.3000

KERNEL32.DLL  4.90.3000

OLE32.DLL  4.71.3328

OLEAUT32.DLL  2.40.4275

USER32.DLL 4.90.3001

VERSION.DLL 4.90.3000

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Well. So much for my theory. I was running IE5.5 SP2 as well and yet it would not start.

Interesting that your list is longer then mine. I'll have to try with only sysedit running and see if my list is the same?

Thanks for the info.

WatcherSea

[Sysedit.exe does not open/run?]

Hello MDGx:

Thank you for your reply.

When I updated my Win 98 installation, I did not update IE to V6. You may ask why I did not? The reason is because I have never found IE V6 to work well with Win 98.

On the off chance that this could be the cause of this fault, I imaged my Win 98 partition and proceeded to install IE V6. After the install and the latest IE V6 security update [ SP1 ], " Sysedit.exe" started to work?

If you look at " Process Explorer " DLL list, you can see that " Sysedit.exe " references DLL that have been updated with 98SE2ME.

Here is the list:

Process: sysedit.exe Pid: FFFB4023

Name Description Company Name Version

ADVAPI32.DLL Win32 ADVAPI32 core component Microsoft Corporation 4.90.0000.3000

cabinet.dll Microsoft® Cabinet File API Microsoft Corporation 5.00.2147.0001

CFGMGR32.DLL Configuration Manager Win32 Interface Microsoft Corporation 4.90.0000.3000

COMCTL32.DLL Common Controls Library Microsoft Corporation 5.81.4916.0400

COMDLG32.DLL Common Dialogs DLL Microsoft Corporation 4.72.3510.2300

CRYPT32.DLL Crypto API32 Microsoft Corporation 5.131.1880.0014

GDI32.DLL Win32 GDI core component Microsoft Corporation 4.90.0000.3000

ICM32.DLL Color Management Module (CMM) Microsoft Corporation 5.00.0000.0000

IMAGEHLP.DLL Windows NT Image Helper Microsoft Corporation 5.00.2178.0001

KERNEL32.DLL Win32 Kernel core component Microsoft Corporation 4.10.0000.2225

LZ32.DLL Win32 LZ32 core component Microsoft Corporation 4.90.0000.3000

MPR.DLL WIN32 Network Interface DLL Microsoft Corporation 4.90.0000.3000

MSASN1.DLL ASN.1 Runtime APIs Microsoft Corporation 5.00.2195.6905

MSCMS.DLL Microsoft Color Matching System DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.00.1977.0001

MSVCRT.DLL Microsoft ® C Runtime Library Microsoft Corporation 6.01.9359.0000

NTDLL.DLL Win32 NTDLL core component Microsoft Corporation 4.90.0000.3000

OLE32.DLL Microsoft OLE for Windows and Windows NT Microsoft Corporation 4.71.3328.0000

RPCRT4.DLL Remote Procedure Call DLL Microsoft Corporation 4.71.3336.0000

SETUPAPI.DLL Windows Setup API Microsoft Corporation 5.00.2195.1526

SHELL32.DLL Windows Shell Common Dll Microsoft Corporation 4.72.3812.0600

SHLWAPI.DLL Shell Light-weight Utility Library Microsoft Corporation 6.00.2800.1106

USER32.DLL Win32 USER32 core component Microsoft Corporation 4.90.0000.3001

VERSION.DLL Win32 VERSION core component Microsoft Corporation 4.90.0000.3000

WINSPOOL.DRV Win32 WINSPOOL core component Microsoft Corporation 4.90.0000.3000

WINTRUST.DLL Microsoft Trust Verification APIs Microsoft Corporation 5.131.1880.0014

wondppet.dll Wonderful Icon's Puppeteer - does some of the dirty work for The Wonderful Icon Eric Heimburg 1.00.0000.0001

Yes, you can see I use Wonderful Icon - Used it for many years, works well

url: http://www.thewonderfulicon.com/

This list, of course, can only be generated once the program is running which of course it was not until I updated IE to V6.

I would like to thank you for you help. I will keep the above correspondence for future reference.

Just a thought: You may want to consider putting a sticky for the control panel, uninstall issue that I happen to come across since this seems to be a reocurring asked question.

Thanks again.

I will now go play with my new improved Win 98.

Talk soon.

WatcherSea

P.S. May I ask what is your computer background [ education, training ... ]? Just curios to know what inspired you to know so much about Win 98.

[Sysedit.exe does not open/run?]

An update:

Have searched the registry for any entries for restrictions " Sysedit.exe " None found.

Extracted " Sysedit.exe " form windows 98SE CD, same result.

Alternative sysedit tool works without error.

link: http://www.mdgx.com/me1.htm#RESE

Side note: Saw a post in regards to control panel, Windows components uninstall not working. Tried and had same problem. Install Registry entries, problem fixed.

Link: http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=49545

Any troubleshooting technique I may use to find out why " Sysedit.exe " will not open/run?

Talk soon

WatcherSea

[how about putting a new task manger?]

Everest has a section for memory usage per application.

It's not a Task Manager but it does show the info.

http://www.lavalys.com/products/overview.php?pid=1〈=en

EDIT: The newest free version does not have this feature.

Use the last version of AIDA32 which Everest is based upon.

http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/AIDA32/1033800563/1

"Publisher's Description:

AIDA32 is a professional system information, diagnostics, and benchmarking program. It extracts details of all components of the PC and can display, print, or save it in various formats like HTML, CSV, or XML. For corporate users, it offers command-line switches, network audit and audit statistics, remote system information, and network management."

WatcherSea

[Sysedit.exe does not open/run?]

Hello MDGx:

Your welcome for the kind works which are well deserved!!!

I know that sysedit worked before I applied the updates.

I'll restore " sysedit.exe " from the Win 98 CD using SFC.exe and see what happens.

I have tried the Sysedit.exe replacement which does work and may be the answer if I am unable to get sysedit working.

Thanks again.

Talk soon.

WatcherSea

[how about putting a new task manger?]

I use " Process Explorer " from Sysinternals:

http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/ProcessExplorer.html

"Ever wondered which program has a particular file or directory open? Now you can find out. Process Explorer shows you information about which handles and DLLs processes have opened or loaded.

The Process Explorer display consists of two sub-windows. The top window always shows a list of the currently active processes, including the names of their owning accounts, whereas the information displayed in the bottom window depends on the mode that Process Explorer is in: if it is in handle mode you’ll see the handles that the process selected in the top window has opened; if Process Explorer is in DLL mode you’ll see the DLLs and memory-mapped files that the process has loaded. Process Explorer also has a powerful search capability that will quickly show you which processes have particular handles opened or DLLs loaded.

The unique capabilities of Process Explorer make it useful for tracking down DLL-version problems or handle leaks, and provide insight into the way Windows and applications work.

Process Explorer works on Windows 9x/Me, Windows NT 4.0, Windows 2000, Windows XP, Server 2003, and 64-bit versions of Windows for x64 processors.

"

WatcherSea

[Sysedit.exe does not open/run?]

Hello everyone:

Has anyone run across a problem that after you install/update Win 98SE with

Unofficial Win98 SE Service Pack and then 98SE2ME, you are not able to run sysedit.exe?

I try to run sysedit and the program does not open/run.

Does Win 98 still process the entries in Autoexec.bat and Config.sys after these

updates have been applied?

Any thoughts, ideas welcome.

Thanks

WatcherSea

BTW: These updates are unbelievable. Very impressive and very impressed with the work that these two gentlemen have done. Well done and Thank You very much.