I think I have pretty much exausted all posts on this subject and Wolfman's is the most acceptable answer. However my problem is that I'm trying to fix a sick OS on an embeded camera controller that has no floppy or CD so I can't run BootIt NG. Cloning is the only way to create an OS for such a system when you don't have an attached CD so it looks like I'm stuck. Some of you have cloned bootable disks without drama - don't know how you did it but congratulations. Have tried Disk Image, Partition Magic, DrvClonerXP, registry edits etc. etc. I have tried a fresh install by removing the drive to a laptop - all with legal software and all without success. Windows costs a fortune. I have to say after reading so much on XP in forums now I don't know how so many people got sucked in to the Microsoft world when there has been a perfectly good, hassle free alternative since 1987 - the Mac. Just wish they could run on embedded systems so I could avoid all this fish bowling. java script:emoticon('')