Without having to post files, I will say that the zip files contain 2 files inside, one is a sound file, and another is a text file containing the long filename, so basically what I want to do is use that long to extract a dos > 8.3 compatible filename name from it, and apply it to the zip file. Every description inside the text file is no more than 8 DIFFERENT words. I already know that. Thanks for the help! -Brian