Thanks for the reply, but everything you said just went over my head. I have a base computer knowledge that is completely self taught from reading, so I have no clue what that means! Could you please elaborate in layman's terms so a simpleton like me could understand? Im sure I could figure out what you mean if spent the time, Ive just been trying to get rid of vista since 11 am this morning, and 5 hours later Ive only made slight progress. Your help is greatly e-ppreciated (haha, get the pun? I dont expect you to laugh...)