mmm Well I had no idea it was going to cause such a headache. Seemed like a good idea at the time. Have no need for all the drivers, languages and few other bits of nonsense. Vista should let you remove that garbage by itself. I did it because I know I was planning to run with it for a very very long time. May as well be neat and tidy. My last computer which is still running had Win XP installed June 2003. So been running almost 5 years no. Runs perfectly fine. Yeah well I'm thinking that perhaps I do need to go to a 'full' install to avoid this sort of issue. Just had a look for what I had removed think I found it? This look right? "Last Session.ini" ; vLite preset file [Information] Version = 1.0 beta on 2.0.50727.42 Microsoft Windows NT 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Target = Windows Vista ULTIMATE 64bit 6.0.6000.16386 [Components] Compatibility1 = 1 Compatibility2 = 1,2,3 ;# Accessories # Accessibility Welcome Center ;# Drivers # Modems Printers-Apollo Printers-Brother Printers-Canon Printers-Citizen Printers-Dell Printers-Diconix Printers-Epson Printers-Fuji Xerox Printers-Fujitsu Printers-Generic Printers-Gestetner Printers-HP Printers-IBM Printers-Infotec Printers-Konica Printers-Konica Minolta Printers-Kyocera Mita Printers-Lanier Printers-Lexmark Printers-Minolta Printers-Minolta-QMS Printers-NEC Printers-NRG Printers-Oce Printers-Oki Printers-Okidata Printers-Olivetti Printers-Panasonic Printers-QMS Printers-Ricoh Printers-Samsung Printers-Savin Printers-Seikosha Printers-Sharp Printers-Sony Printers-Star Printers-Tally Printers-Tektronix Printers-Wipro ePeripherals Printers-Xerox Scanners Sound controllers ;# Languages # Japanese Korean Simplified Chinese Traditional Chinese ;# Services # Remote Registry ;# System # BitLocker Drive Encryption Disk Defragmenter Microsoft Agent Parental Controls Tablet PC [Options] UAC (User Account Control) = Disabled [Protection] [Drivers] [Unattended] SpecRegional AcceptEULA SkipProductKey SkipAutoActivation Is there anything that can be removed without causing any issues?! I mean what I removed was pretty slim it's definitely all JUNK. Perhaps just the defrag, but using third party software so figured why not remove it... God why do they force all this nonsense on their users??? I'm just pretty sure SP1 won't install (haven't tried it yet) as I know that it updates the defragmenter... And am worried about these endless loop issues during install. Ah yeah does take a long time. I have a lot of programs I use... And they're all set up like I like them. Just figure I need to move to SP1 ASAP - pull the bandaid fast and hard rather than leaving it for later, it's only going to get worse. Yeah no experience with using the settings and transfer wizard or third party apps either. Frankly I wouldn't trust them. Seen one computer that it was used on from XP to Vista - what a mess. God I'm dreading this! Was hoping the comment made by nonno fabio here would turn out to work - would love more detail. Guess I should try message him directly. http://www.msfn.org/board/vista-sp1-and-vlite-t114322.html