Yeah, I'd read that, it was one of the few posts I could find on the subject, though, that was one of the automatic services. And actually come to think of it, I also made a disk with all the services on default and still had the problem. (It's amazing what you can forget at 1am) Oh and anoher thing I should note is I just broke down and used my old SP0 disk, so right now I can't test much, though I'm not opposed to doing it over again.