lol. I did! http://support.microsoft.com/kb/912817 No where, that I could see, did it state that 912817 superceeded 902400. And if it is superceeding, why did windowsupdate not sense that when it scanned the base install? Very newbie questions, I know, and since I'm an RTFM guy myself ... it is killing me to behind on this learning curve. Is there a FAQ or a website somewhere that I can get up to speed on these types of questions?