LeveL Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 (edited) Ignore the title folks, its misleading, sorry Nuhi, it isn't vLite that has causedthe problem, I just thought it was in the beginning...-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------After using vLite, I installed Vista and everything is OK apart from one thing,I hover the mouse over the minimized windows and do not get the previewcoming up. So I right clicked the taskbar, chose properties, and indeed, theoption is greyed out:What I don't understand is, why should removing "Windows SAT" affect this?Also, when I press Winkey+Ctrl+Tab it does not do the fancy scrolling throughthe windows! I think this is all related too.Why do I think its the removal of Windows SAT? Because what else could it be?For some reason, because my machine is not rated for performance I thinkthis has affected a few things, yes the Aero Glass is on and OK, yes all the tickboxesunder erformance are ticked to use the most luxurious display possible... but itssomething else entirely I think, it must be because a performance check has neverbeen done?I think what we need is a simple registry tweak to fool Vista into thinking...1 - The performance check has been done (SAT removed or no SAT removed, who cares,this is the registry we are talking about, I am sure removing SAT won't make any differenceif there was some way to make Windows think the check has been performed)2 - The check was passed!I am using vLite v1.0b and keeping all the compatibility for Aero, ACDsee andthe other items, here is my last session...Last_Session.ini Edited May 26, 2007 by LeveL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuhi Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 You say that Aero is enabled but it doesn't seem so from that screenshot.Can you confirm that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geo411m Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 he's not using areo glass thats why he doen't have all aero features. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeveL Posted May 26, 2007 Author Share Posted May 26, 2007 (edited) You say that Aero is enabled but it doesn't seem so from that screenshot.Can you confirm that?he's not using areo glass thats why he doen't have all aero features.Peeps, this is in VMware where you cannot have the translucent effect,I know, but you CAN at least have the theme set on Aero, which it is,also in a full Vista install in VMware, I am 90% sure there are thumbnailpreviews on the taskbar. Although hey, I am not 100% sure about this.I don't have that much disk space and can't do a full install in VMware.Just trying to perfect my vLite'd ISO before I install it on my real machine,but I guess to really test this, I am going to have to just install it on my realmachine anyhow and see what the deal is with that greyed out option.Although why would the Aero Glass effect be tied into the taskbar thumbnailoption and ability to do the window scrolling? I can't do the window scrollingeither.Its VMware v5.5 as well so its only got 4Mb of video memory, I am surprisedVista even runs on that much vid memory AT ALL, never mind showing any kindof a theme.I just realised that "Switch between windows" icon is the thing to scroll the windows in 3D,hehe, thats not working in VMware either, it seems that in VMware it is completely crippledas far as the theme goes... sorry I seem to be blaming vLite for these things when its got tobe VMware.Now where is that Acronis rescue CD....... Edited May 26, 2007 by LeveL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeveL Posted May 26, 2007 Author Share Posted May 26, 2007 (edited) OK now I am worried. I have installed Vista on my real machine,installed chipset drivers and graphics drivers, all compatible withVista... and still its exactly the same as it is in VMware, no taskbarthumbnails, no Aero Glass. Its just the same light blue windowsas in VMware.So I looked for the "force glass" tweak, this:Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\DWM]"EnableMachineCheck"=dword:00000000"Glass"=dword:00000001NOTE: The DWM key was not even there before I imported this tweak!Something is seriously wrong Anyway I applied this tweak and rebooted, still no glass effect, I have anATI Radeon 9550 256Mb graphics card, 1Gb RAM memory and an Athlon64 3000+ CPU.When I click themes, it says "Windows Vista" and shows those same lightblue windows that should be glass.There is nothing else I can tell you and nothing else I can think of. Edited May 26, 2007 by LeveL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuhi Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 Did you install latest proper display driver for your VGA/GPU?Also if you haven't removed Aero, as I see you didn't, you shouldn't have tampered with any tweaks around it, just go in the Desktop Properties and select Aero Glass, you have to select it if WinSAT is removed, it won't do it automatically, that's the only difference.Otherwise if there is no Glass on the list then it's either the wrong tweak or wrong display driver.Note: Glass is not in the Themes page, it is in the Windows Color and Appearances in the Desktop properties (Personalize). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeveL Posted May 26, 2007 Author Share Posted May 26, 2007 (edited) Did you install latest proper display driver for your VGA/GPU?On my actaul machine with ATI Radeon 9550 256Mb, I installed the Catalystdriver (says its for Vista) called 7-4_vista32_dd_ccc_enu_44985.exeI think the problem might be the Chipset drivers (not because of removinganything, I mean in general) Windows says it installed the Chipset and yetit didn't because I cannot change the DMA mode and the properties for the"IDE/ATA ATAPI Controller" is very limited. Its nForce3. I don't even thinkthere are any Vista Chipset drivers for NF3 yet... but Nuhi don't worry aboutthis because even on a FULL install of Vista on my real machine, its the same,no glass, no taskbar thumbnails etc.Also if you haven't removed Aero, as I see you didn't, you shouldn't have tampered with any tweaks around it, just go in the Desktop Properties and select Aero Glass, you have to select it if WinSAT is removed, it won't do it automatically, that's the only difference.This is funny because the theme IS set on Aero Glass right from the start, in all these cases:1 - vLite'd in Vmware2 - vLite'd on my real machine3 - Full Vista on my real machineIts just not transparent, its the light blue you see in the image in the 1st post.Otherwise if there is no Glass on the list then it's either the wrong tweak or wrong display driver.Note: Glass is not in the Themes page, it is in the Windows Color and Appearances in the Desktop properties (Personalize).Yeah, this is where I am looking.Sorry man, this problem is not because of vLite... I actually think its because I integratedall these hotfixes: http://www.vistasp1.net/ So much for "Vista SP1" more like "Vista WTF" The really crappy thing is those hotfixes add about 60Mb o the ISO so I was removinga lot more stuff than I could be, OK back to my original plan then of just adding ONLYthe hotfixes shown on Windows Update (Theres only about 12, not 90+ like on thatVista SP1 page)OK, I will just strip it, using the same Last Session I was originally that kept quite a fewmore things (not Windows SAT, I will still remove that) and I will post back...... theres your warning folks, don't integrate ALL the hotfixes from that page! At leastthis is all I can narrow it down to as far as the Aero Glass not working goes... Edited May 26, 2007 by LeveL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geo411m Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 (edited) So much for "Vista SP1" more like "Vista WTF" The really crappy thing is those hotfixes add about 60Mb o the ISO so I was removinga lot more stuff than I could be, OK back to my original plan then of just adding ONLYthe hotfixes shown on Windows Update (Theres only about 12, not 90+ like on thatVista SP1 page)OK, I will just strip it, using the same Last Session I was originally that kept quite a fewmore things (not Windows SAT, I will still remove that) and I will post back...... theres your warning folks, don't integrate ALL the hotfixes from that page! At leastthis is all I can narrow it down to as far as the Aero Glass not working goes...i did the the same thing slipstreaming all those hotfixes. its not worth it really. you lose 60 megs of space that could other wise be used for features. once u lose a feature its gone and hotfixes get replaced every month anyway, so next month your up to date cd will be out dated. also i don't know if its been mentioned here but if you don't run the install from windows you can delete all files in the sources folder except both .wim files and that will save you an additional 70+ megs. Edited May 26, 2007 by geo411m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeveL Posted May 26, 2007 Author Share Posted May 26, 2007 You know, I really can't tell if its my system or not...I have an nForce3 chipset with an ATI 9550, and a single core CPU.All over the net people with this same setup but a dual core AMD X2 CPUare getting an Error 43... I have looked and apparently NVIDIA do notsupport nForce3 on Vista!Maybe I should just get a Mobo with a VIA chipset?!I found something out about "Windows SAT" - on your ISO this componentonly takes up 11Mb! Yes, it takes up 72Mb in the installed OS, but only 11Mbon the ISO.I know it would take a lot of testing but we should try to make a complete listof all these sizes... vLite tells you only whats saved in the installed OS, you haveto continually copy a full DVD, strip it, find its over CD size, copy athe full DVD,strip it, find its over CD size, its a very long process!The thing is though with those hotfixes, you gotta look at how they do not appearon Windows Update - if they were really THAT important, then they would appearthere and they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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