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Modern motherboards which are working with Windows 98 (discussion)

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I did short test, boot into Dos prompt renamed some file a copied 50MB file is was fine, im even able to boot into safe mode, even there copy file was fine, i removed (purgehdc p a) Sata controller (only 1 is here),
rebooted into normal mode, Sata controller was detected, reboot - c: writing problem - i have 215 MB free on HDD it is i hope enough for just boot..

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Does the writing Error appear before the Desktop appears, shortly after, a while later, or do you have to do something to make it happen?

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Before Desktop appears, but not immediately after windows boot logo i would say that it is in the second part of loading. I will check bootlog.

Update bootlog is quite long, hangs on Sata driver:

[000CFC0F] DEVICEINITSUCCESS   = SPOOLER 
[000CFC0F] DEVICEINIT   = UDF     
[000CFC0F] DEVICEINITSUCCESS   = UDF     
[000CFC0F] DEVICEINIT   = VFAT    
[000CFC0F] DEVICEINITSUCCESS   = VFAT    
[000CFC0F] DEVICEINIT   = VDEF    
[000CFC0F] DEVICEINITSUCCESS   = VDEF    
[000CFC0F] Initing vclone.mpd
[000CFC09] Init Success vclone.mpd
[000CFC09] Initing esdi_506.pdr

 

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Another unexpected Driver. What is VCLONE.MPD?

Try removing/renaming it and ignoring any missing File Warnings.

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Another unexpected Driver. What is VCLONE.MPD?

  CloneCD virtual driver, tested on other machine, but what about GPT 3TB disc on second Asmedia port, could that be a difference(i know that im writing on different disc, but..), or its entairly ignore, i would how about testing with GPT you did?

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Standard GPT disks would be ignored by Windows 9x. Hybrid or my Mixed GPT and MBR disks may not. 

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Standard GPT disks would be ignored by Windows 9x. Hybrid or my Mixed GPT and MBR disks may not. 

   You are right, i even disconnected GPT disc its same, so patch is simply dont like my Asmedia controller.
  BTW im already in contact with Asrock Bios/uefi team, they were nice enough to implement, per Sata port enable / disable for this board and trying to add hotplug for Asmedia port.. I had some other issues with this board in other OS - in Windows 7 is HDD on Asmedia port marked as removable SCSI device and when i start HWinfo - disc is disconnected to cold powerdown and when i run R-Drive image and scan list of partition i got machine freeze, it could be only Asmedia driver issues..

   But i want to say, if you see some way how they should adjust PCI devs settings (scanpci result), write it here or sent it to me by mail, i will try to ask, they are quite open to fixing, its right opposite of my MSI / GB experience with UEFI issues fixing. 

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No PCI changes.

It sounds like there are some BIOS and/or Hardware issues with the Asmedia Controller. Hopefully they can fix it.

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I wasnt here half a year any new about new chipsets - AM4 - Axx, or Intel Z170,Z270,Z370 support?

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Those chipsets have USB 3.0 controllers ONLY. No USB 2.0 visible to the 98SE, unlike previous chipsets. So you need an external USB 2.0 PCI or PCI-E x1 card to use USB on those chipsets. If your BIOS can emulate PS/2 devices via the controller, this helps greatly, but will only work for keyboard and mouse, nothing more.

With the new AHCI driver from rloew, you can have full 32-bit file access on those chipsets.

Still no HD Audio. You could use a generic USB Sound Card together with the previously mentioned USB 2.0 card to get some sound at least.

There is a prototype Win 3.1 driver for HD Audio, but it only works for two people, and I will help them troubleshoot it for my system in the future. More info here: http://win3x.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=Pascal&action=display&num=1502071336

LAN depends on the chip on the motherboard itself. Intel and Killer is no go, look for Realtek RTL8111.

You also might require(!) HIMEMX.EXE, even if you have the rloew's RAM Patch, as in my case, having the RAM Patch does not resolve being stuck at the boot screen with regular HIMEM.SYS. HIMEMX.EXE resolves all issues and is just recommended, together with the "/p i" switch while installing 98SE

Other than that, 98SE should work just fine, it does on my H110 motherboard, it does get very workaround-like, but that's my view on the situation. Some motherboards might still have a PCI port, which help greatly.

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On 3/17/2018 at 12:57 PM, ruthan said:

I wasnt here half a year any new about new chipsets - AM4 - Axx, or Intel Z170,Z270,Z370 support?

Do not post the same question to two different threads.
While it may technically be "on-topic" for both threads, it is more on-topic in this one, and any discussion of the issue should not be split up all over the forum.
Other post removed and MrMateczko's response moved here.

Now to answer your question, not much has changed. MrMateczko covered everything I'm aware of.
I have not been able to continue my "newer Intel chipset" testing beyond the X99 platform as of yet. Too many real life issues going on for the past few months, and no quick end in sight yet. But I WILL get back to it. Eventually...:wacko:

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MrMateczko- thanks, im aware old issues, but problem was Sata controller, if rloew fixed it, great. Intel 3xx chipsets + 8xxx CPU look interenting for me - cheap quad and six cores with best singlecore games performance.
   Other condition is that same configuration have to be able to run Windows XP too.

 HD audio driver even for Win 3.1 is great news, that something is getting better- rephaps some day Dos and Win9x driver will happen. Yes, im aware new Adlib for LPT port too.
 

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 Do not post the same question to two different threads.

 Now i know why i wasnt half a year here, too much rules and efforts to tutor, yes mother :)

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Missed one. There is a third post in the XP section.

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4 hours ago, ruthan said:

Now i know why i wasnt half a year here, too much rules and efforts to tutor, yes mother :)

Yep, there are rules everywhere in life. Better get accustomed to it.

You should try being more organized yourself. Might have prevented some of the weird issues you kept having before. :angel

2 hours ago, rloew said:

Missed one. There is a third post in the XP section.

I saw. I can't moderate there anyway, but I gave him the benefit of the doubt on that one as there could have been progress on these systems for XP without progress for 98 and vice versa.

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On 19. 3. 2018 at 2:54 AM, rloew said:

Missed one. There is a third post in the XP section.

 Yeah, what is wrong with that? Same question about different OSes. Third was in other thread, is normal to assume that not everybody watching all threads.. 

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