Modern motherboards which are working with Windows 98 (discussion)

[RJARRRPCGP]

Bad thing in my thinking is that she do not support: "CPU Overheat Shutdown to Protect CPU Life". This is my only reason against this MBO.

I dunno about that, because that feature has existed at least since 2003! I would think that it supports it, because all processors newer than earlier 2002 should have a built-in thermal sensor.

Thus, this reminds me of motherboard manufacturers appearing to be slacking 5 years ago or around 5 years ago, when with AMD, despite the Athlon XPs having a thermal sensor, the motherboards still used the old school in-socket probe.

Edited December 6, 2007 by RJARRRPCGP

[Rjecina]

After looking site http://www.logicsupply.com/products/d201gly2

I can only tell you that this MBO support Windows 98 SE.

Reasons for that thinking is possibility to download from SiS site Windows 98 SE drivers for GPU, SATA and Raid on this MBO (chipset SiS662 and SiS964). For coming to this place you must visit this address

http://www.sis.com/download/agreement.php?url=/download/

In reality I do not like PCI Express chipsets (this is that chipset) but ....

[Rjecina]

AsRock ConRoe865PE is not supporting "CPU Overheat Shutdown to Protect CPU Life" option. This is clear because in manual they have not writen anything about this "tehnology".

On other side in manual about AsRock 775i65G they are writing how MBO is supporting this option.

This writing about good stuff but not about bad (MBO is not supporting Overheat Shutdown) is marketing

You must not forget that AsRock is cheap because they use old tehnology.

[vick1111]

Thanks to Rjecina and all the helpful posters on this forum.

I have now a system based on Asrock 4coredual-sata2 -Intel core 2 quad processor -2 Gb of DDRII -

The problem was and still is to find a suitable compatible graphic card and I have it partially solved it by using an old (used and noisy) Ati Radeon 9600 on Agp.

Windows 98 seems running perfectly even if I am still at the beginning and I have not configured any vcache limit yet, only added "MaxPhysPage=40000" in system.ini under 386E nh,

also got some problem in recognizing the dvd disk which is placed on the secondary Master Ide.

(of course I am speaking about windows 98 - The DVD disk works in other Operating systems - for this reason it does not seem to be a problem due to a bad hardware configuration in the jumper or connections)

I will give a new post when I have solved my problems or/and (hopefully) after some time to inform how the motherboard is dealing with windows 98.

p.s If anyone has had and did solve a similar problem in dvd disk recognition under w98 or knows about a post in this forum about this kind of problem please let me know.

[vick1111]

Compatibility update for Asrock 4coredual-sata2 -Intel core 2 quad processor -2 Gb of DDRII -and windows98

I have been able to use the disk drive only with the generic dos drive on the windows 98 disk following a microsoft installation procedure.

No way to read DVD for now.

And I got a new problem that did show up only after I started to install programs

someone on here may be able to help: It is not anymore possible to start dos under windows 98 cause I get out of memory message. -

I have limited the size of [vcache] in system.ini with this :

[vcache]

MinFileCache=40000

MaxFileCache=40000

and the memory with this in system.ini:

[386Enh]

MaxPhysPage=2CFFF

and I have tried various other settings for this entries with no results.

[rainyd]

And I got a new problem that did show up only after I started to install programs

someone on here may be able to help: It is not anymore possible to start dos under windows 98 cause I get out of memory message. -

With 2 GB of RAM you'll need a rloew patch from this thread: http://www.msfn.org/board/RAM-Limitation-Patch-t107342.html (this will cost you 20 bucks).

Edited December 7, 2007 by rainyd

[Rjecina]

The problem was and still is to find a suitable compatible graphic card and I have it partially solved it by using an old (used and noisy) Ati Radeon 9600 on Agp.

This is very small problem.

Look this site :

http://www.gigabyte.com.ro/Products/VGA/Pr...&BUSSpeed=8

and here are Windows 98 drivers for Nvidia 6x00 Agp

http://www.nvidia.com/object/win9x_81.98.html

I do not believe that there will be problem finding computer shop with Gigabyte products

In my thinking Nvidia 6x00 series is best for Windows 98

[diskless]

After looking site http://www.logicsupply.com/products/d201gly2

I can only tell you that this MBO support Windows 98 SE.

Reasons for that thinking is possibility to download from SiS site Windows 98 SE drivers for GPU, SATA and Raid on this MBO (chipset SiS662 and SiS964). For coming to this place you must visit this address

http://www.sis.com/download/agreement.php?url=/download/

In reality I do not like PCI Express chipsets (this is that chipset) but ....

I think these are the SiS drivers needed:

IDE - v2.04a

LAN - v1.19

SATA & RAID - v4.11a

UniVGA3 graphics - v3.83

But also need an AD1888/SoundMax driver from somewhere?

Edited December 9, 2007 by diskless

[vick1111]

Compatibility update for Asrock 4coredual-sata2 -Intel core 2 quad processor -2 Gb of DDRII -and windows98

I solved the problem with the disk drive.

I can read DVD now.

Sorry for my last post. it was not very informative. I went to panic cause my system went into compatibility mode and I did not realize what was happening.

I have solved the memory problem by reducing even more the MaxFileCache entry.

I warn everyone wanting to install Windows 98 on this board that it is going to be a very delicate task.

Sata disks need to be put into Raid mode in the bios or else Windows 98 can enter into compatibility mode and also hide the cd disk.

Only problem I seem to have now is that I am experiencing problems with an usb memory stick (8 Gb dimension): System locks completely when tryng to write.

For Dual booters: I was able to install Linux Mepis on this board without any problem from the last 2007 distribution CD. (Ubuntu did not work)

Will post after some time an update of how my system is behaving.

Thanks to Rjecina (always very informative) about suggestions on the graphic card.

[Rjecina]

When is possible it is better to have IDE (or PATA) hard drive. SATA is creating too much problems in Windows 98 SE installation ...

Edited December 12, 2007 by Rjecina

[Rjecina]

But also need an AD1888/SoundMax driver from somewhere?

This driver will be OK

http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Downloads...=39&LanID=0

[dspear]

I've located the following links for running W98 on modern hardware. Anyone find any others?

Looking for motherboard still support Windows 98......08/14/2006

http://forums.windowsitpro.com/web/forum/m...p;enterthread=y

Trying to find a new motherboard......Sep 05, 2006

http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/win98/t1157473232Sep

Cheap new VIA/AMD PC and Win98 SE.......Nov 12 2006

http://www.msfn.org/board/Cheap_VIA_AMD_PC...ded#entry586532

Windows 98 on a modern system?......03-27-2007

http://bleedinedge.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30132

Compatible Hardware with Windows 9x.......Nov 7 2007

http://www.msfn.org/board/Compatible-Hardw...9x-t107001.html

[diskless]

But also need an AD1888/SoundMax driver from somewhere?

This driver will be OK

http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Downloads...=39&LanID=0

This message was written using Win98SE on an Intel D201GLY2 motherboard.

The audio driver on the Intel D201GLY2 download webpage includes an X86 folder. The files are almost identical to those in the link you posted. Running Setup.exe from this folder installs Soundmax with no error messages. When Windows re-boots the audio device is found, but I cannot locate a driver that works. Other Soundmax drivers that I've downloaded have the same problem.

Ideas anybody?

[Rjecina]

The audio driver on the Intel D201GLY2 download webpage includes an X86 folder. The files are almost identical to those in the link you posted. Running Setup.exe from this folder installs Soundmax with no error messages. When Windows re-boots the audio device is found, but I cannot locate a driver that works. Other Soundmax drivers that I've downloaded have the same problem.

Ideas anybody?

Problem is that Intel has stoped support for Windows 98 and it is not possible to use drivers from Intel site for instalation.

Simple speaking Intel site is very bad for drivers for "our" OS.

I think that drivers from SiS site or from site which has produced similar chipset before are much better for download.

On other side because some stupid mistake for me it is not possible to install USB 2.0 on Windows 98 (Intel 865 chipset from 2007). Installation is going OK but after restart ....

If it is not possible to install this drivers about which I have writen before you will have problem which is very similar to my USB

[diskless]

The audio driver on the Intel D201GLY2 download webpage includes an X86 folder. The files are almost identical to those in the link you posted. Running Setup.exe from this folder installs Soundmax with no error messages. When Windows re-boots the audio device is found, but I cannot locate a driver that works. Other Soundmax drivers that I've downloaded have the same problem.

Ideas anybody?

Problem is that Intel has stopped support for Windows 98 and it is not possible to use drivers from Intel site for installation.

Simple speaking Intel site is very bad for drivers for "our" OS.

I think that drivers from SiS site or from site which has produced similar chipset before are much better for download.

You were right, Intel driver is no good but I have audio working on D201GLY2!

The ECS driver you provided a link to does not work as it is. However, if you add the following line

%*WDM_AC97AUD.DeviceDesc%=WDM_M188, pci\ven_1039&dev_7012&subsys_D61F8086

to [AnalogDevices] section in smwdmSIS.inf file in 9x_Me\SMAXWDM\SE folder, then audio driver installs fine. Many thanks!

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I found a USB 2.0 driver that installs OK, so everything looks like it is working with Win98SE & D201GLY2, except for Motherboard resources conflict for ACPI. (USB not tested at all yet,though.) System Properties pics:

Device Manager (1/4)

Device Manager (2/4)

Device Manager (3/4)

Device Manager (4/4)

Edited December 28, 2007 by diskless