Mandy Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 I have a problem. My first problem is that I do not know how my former colleague created the PE-CD that we are using. Unfortunately he is on vacation and cannot be reached.When I boot the servers with the PE-CD it says "Loading Ramdisk Image"After that, for about 1 sec, you can see "Loading Windows PE" flashing and then a .cmd script starts. in this case ghost8 (32bit version)If I abort the script I can see that the CD label is "BART PE"This behaviour is not like BartPE or WinPE CDs. Does anyone know what this bootable CD is?The reason I have to change this CD is that I need different drivers for some new servers. I've tried both WinPE and BartPE to accomplish this and my major problem is that I cannot eject the CD and insert another one. With the Bootable CD my colleague made, I can do this.If I look at the CD in explorer I see the following:i386 folderrestore.iso filewinnt.sif fileThe restore.iso file contains:label BART PEi386 folderprograms folderMy first option is to build the same CD with different driversSecond option is to build a similiar PE-CD with different driversThe CD must be bootableA .cmd script should autostartMust be able to eject CD and insert another oneHow can I accomplish this?I know it is many questions a the same time but I really need this to work and I only have a few days All ideas and info are most appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paxamime Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 That is a Barts PE and is a older version (probably 1.5).As far as needing to modify it I would discourage you from doing so with that version. The best (and legal) way to do it would be to upgrade to the new PE 2.0 and customize it your self. Microsoft has some issues with Bart PE being used for commercial usage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted April 12, 2007 Author Share Posted April 12, 2007 That is a Barts PE and is a older version (probably 1.5).As far as needing to modify it I would discourage you from doing so with that version. The best (and legal) way to do it would be to upgrade to the new PE 2.0 and customize it your self. Microsoft has some issues with Bart PE being used for commercial usage.Ok, thanks for the info.Is it possible to do what I want to do with WinPE 2.0?A .cmd script should autostartMust be able to eject CD and insert another one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Just for the record:1) There is NO known way in the world, setting aside tarots and crystal balls, to determine from the info Mandy posted which version of Bart PE it is, not even approximately, however "recent" (meaning since 2003) history of BartPE starts at 3.0.0 :http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/changes.txtThere were however a WinPE v1.5 and a WinPE v1.6 before current WinPE 2.0 (Vista based), but if the label saus BartPE it should actually be BartPE2) Microsoft has some issues with Bart PE being used for commercial usage.The above is a generic and apodictical nonsense.Microsoft has NO issues over the using of BartPE for Personal or Commercial usage if the corresponding XP or server 2003 licenses are legal and valid and if there is NO concurrent usage of the SAME licensed OS.See this:http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/#licensing3) What Mandy wants to do is perfectly possible (and legal, within the provisions of the license terms above) with BartPE, UBCD4WIN, Winbuilder AND WinPE 1.5/1.6/2.0.Funny enough, licensing of WinPE 1.x has been for years "reserved" to Microsoft partners and OEM and only recently became publicly available, under the presumption that a "normal" customer building his own system is a OEM of sorts:http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=10315http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=56488@MandyThe real problem seems to me that it is NOT a wizard type procedure in which you press "Next" a number of times and you have your CD working as you want it, nor something that can be explained in a few lines post.It involves understanding the basics of the innards of a PE build, then proceed by trial and error until you get what you want.......you will need to search, read and understand a number of posts, here on msfn.org, on 911CD forum and possibly on boot-land.net before being able to even start a build.Since you want to be able to eject bootCD and insert another one, what you are looking for is RAMDISK or SDI/VDK booting , but as said you have a long path before you.Maybe, just maybe the easiest projects for newbies (no offence intended ) like you would be the ones based on Winbuilder, which however is still in Beta stage:VistaPE:http://www.boot-land.net/forums/VistaPE-f51.html or PicoXP/NativeEx:http://www.boot-land.net/forums/NativeEx-and-LiveXP-f52.htmlBoth "standard" BartPE and WinPE have been developed as "bare" Pre-installation Environments or emergency recovery, and, while being without "bells and whistles" need some work to add features, if you need/want a more "XP like" bootCD, Reatogo:http://www.reatogo.de/REATOGO.htmor UBCD4WIN:http://www.ubcd4win.com/are better and they are more "mature" than the projects on boot-land.net, which on the other hand, have the advantage that, being newish and as said experimental, might provide better support....jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twalk482 Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 (edited) Is it possible to do what I want to do with WinPE 2.0?A .cmd script should autostartMust be able to eject CD and insert another oneYes, The startnet.cmd is the name of the file that autostarts (which you can customize)Also, the default behavior of WINPE 2.0 is to load a "WIM" file into RAM, so CD Swapping is allowed (by a human of course, WINPE 2.0 doesn't swap the CD's for you ). Edited April 12, 2007 by twalk482 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted April 12, 2007 Author Share Posted April 12, 2007 Thanks for the info jaclaz and twalk482 I will do some reading tomorrow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Also, the default behavior of WINPE 2.0 is to load a "WIM" file into RAM, so CD Swapping is allowed (by a human of course, WINPE 2.0 doesn't swap the CD's for you )FYI, this can be solved as well , as long as you have some Lego pieces, some plywood and a few more surplus parts around, and quite a bit of time :http://www.redfrontdoor.org/cd-changer.htmland there is even a solution if the CD does not work as expected :http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-ga...lego-cd-throwerjaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twalk482 Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 And since we are completely off thread topic now, I can't think of anything better than loading CD's into this Lego PCWe should start work on "Lego PE" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted April 13, 2007 Author Share Posted April 13, 2007 Ok, problem solved.I created a new Bart PE iso which I customized to suit my needs.When the bootcd starts, the whole iso image is loaded as a ramdisk.Works like a charm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 @MandyHappy everything is fine. @twalk482And since we are completely off thread topic now, I can't think of anything better than loading CD's into this Lego PCWell, that is really nice , I wouldn't dare attempting building one like that, expecially mouse, monitor and keyboard !However something like this is simpler and more playful, very good as a PC for a kid:http://www.mini-itx.com/projects/legobox/Cheers,jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betamax Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Ok, problem solved.I created a new Bart PE iso which I customized to suit my needs.When the bootcd starts, the whole iso image is loaded as a ramdisk.Works like a charm!Wait wait wait wait wait wait!Wait........Wait.How did you load the cd as a ramdisk? Can you post your startnet.cmd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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