kane3162 Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 WELL from a personal gaming standpoint I LOVE using nLite.HOWEVER!My question is in about 2 months we are opening a LAN center, can we legally use nLite (using out legit keys) or will there be a problem?!?!?!I would love to nlite every system and remove all the crap and unnecessary sh*t to make the systems run faster and smoother......SO please let me know legal/not legal!?!?!? and if its legal SUGGESTIONS on nlite removal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanoll Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 did you read the license agreement of nLite?despite the fact that it'll violate both the nLite license agreement and the microsoft agreement, in a business environment this could lead to bad bad things... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGadAllah Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Just get back to nuhi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaGhul Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 (edited) Personally, I don't see why not, as long as you have legal, store-bought CDs and serial keys.However, of course, all warranties with MS would be void by altering it with nLite. But if you know enough to enLighten it, hopefully you know how to reformat should things go wrong. (Who really needs MS Support anyways? )If MS wants to make a big stink about altering XP, then technically, ANYONE who deleted ANYTHING ever from their PC would be in jail!! (Of course, that's probably how they would want it!! (Hahah), but the courts won't let 'em. Edited January 4, 2007 by RaGhul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGadAllah Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 I think MS is not he issue here, while nLite is the main issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camarade_Tux Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 (edited) @Alanoll, this topic recalls me something...edit : indeed : http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=71566 Edited January 4, 2007 by Camarade_Tux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pppx00 Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 deleted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kane3162 Posted January 5, 2007 Author Share Posted January 5, 2007 Ok let me shed some light.The OS Keys will be 100% legitit will be a Corp key bought just recently M$ support is not an object, im more then ur avid PC user (i should say at $2045 a month pay......... er Tech.... )SO back to the main subject, if we do this will it be illegal??!?!? Meaning could they really do anything about it. As we will have bought a 100% legit key Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanVM Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 (edited) Alanoll already answered your question. What you're proposing directly violates both Microsoft's and nLite's license agreements, regardless of the legality of your copies of Windows. In other words, not a smart idea for a business Edited January 5, 2007 by RyanVM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kane3162 Posted January 5, 2007 Author Share Posted January 5, 2007 not the answer i was looking for however i have PMed nuhi as he didnt say complete yes or no to a previous post hopefully he can shed some light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kane3162 Posted January 5, 2007 Author Share Posted January 5, 2007 additionally, none of the forum questions relating to use of this in over 5 pc environment was never answerd, as for M$ I would love to see where it says they can really do anything, as for nLite I want permission or a license to do this first... whichever works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsenellenelvian Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 nLite license agreement:LICENSE AGREEMENT: Your use of nLite is governed by the following conditions. Please read this information carefully before using nLite. By using it you are agreeing to the following conditions:1. nLite is freeware and can be freely used for any personal non-commercial purposes, subject to the following restrictions.2. nLite can be only distributed electronically through the official host www.nliteos.com. Distribution through other websites or in any other form without the author's permission is prohibited.For distribution through free CD/DVD Magazine addon contact the author for permission.3. nLite is supplied "as-is". The author assumes no liability for damages, direct or consequential, which may result from the use of nLite.4. Import Restrictions. International users also check any import restrictions that your government may impose. Reread eula.txt in your Windows\System32 folder.5. nLite is free for personal use only, you cannot use it for any company or business purposes at this time.6. MCDBNET2.dll is registered on me (the nLite author) with the royalty-free license and can be distributed only bundled with nLite.7. nLite is a copyrighted material of Dino Nuhagic aka nuhi. You may not decompile, disassemble or otherwise reverse engineer this product. You may not include the parts of nLite in your software without the author's permission. You may not alter or modify nLite in any way or create a new installer for it.Copyright © 2004-2006, Dino Nuhagic aka nuhiTake a good close look at #5 and there you will find your answer = NO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kane3162 Posted January 5, 2007 Author Share Posted January 5, 2007 and again, there is a post where it was discussed.... PENDING it might be there now but he did say he was thinking about that one..... best thing is LA's can be changed...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camarade_Tux Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 As far as I've understood (and the same would apply to HFSLIP), the problem is support and people who will use it.On your own computer, you are the only to use it. And since it is *your* computer, *you* should be able to do anything *you* want. It's just like if you had to eat seeds that come with grapes; nobody can force you to. But in business, the situation is different, people are not physical anymore but are legal entities and you can't grant such entities something like will. So you would be stuck on court and you seem to be concerned with such issues.Also computer-based business really suffer from downtimes. Imagine you discover an incompatibility. On small business, it isn't a problem, you reinstall during the night and that's it. But with bigger companies where the head is sometimes far from being the person who used nlite, this head could tend to attack nuhi to get money.Licence problems as usual but better safe than sorry and I don't know any msfn member that is a lawyer and who could therefore help.Once again, this is my personnal point of view, not nuhi's or any other msfn member.@ppx00, to keep microsoft's layers out of *their* backs, not yours.And you're giving sort of a warez link here! Pretty forbidden.Also, less than 60MBs for an iso, I know Jeremy did it but such isos usually don't like DHCP, domains and networks (and don't contain activation-related components). Anyway, that's still warez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kane3162 Posted January 5, 2007 Author Share Posted January 5, 2007 LOL thats the thing we are not paying got them to access the OS (also the continuous comments about incompatibility really annoy me for a LAN not testing at least a month before hand is LAN SUICIDE!!!!!) we pay $2000 for SmartLaunch for them to be using (its a shell in itself on top of windows hence nLite to remove all the crap that is NOT needed or wanted)additionally, the great thing is all PC's specs are the same, after a windows install instead of installing on every other PC we will use a tool like ghost or the frozen software to just completely make a copy (games not installed as that would require continuous key changes) So again, User no using the WINOS GUI so remove everything there, not using any other programs then the Games and Smart Launch so take everything not needed is my point, additionally an company who hires a tech who has to call M$ for help cannot call themselves a tech... I mean seriously if a problem arises and you cannot google it or figure it out yourself then you REALLY should not be working for a BIG Corp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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