kurt476 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Hi msfn users, I been looking around on the web to find away to unlock the full hard drive storage space. still don't seem to find anything on this. Is there away to do this is my ?Can anybudy anwser this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqie Fox Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Please check the posting rules. http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=61853Pay special attention to #6: provide as much information as you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prx984 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 (edited) i suppose you mean the total size as advertised on the drive, correct?if so, you can't. if you work it out mathematically, it works out to be the right size anyway, but in Bytes. It's not perfect, but they sell a drive advertised as 40gb, but because they round the total size in bytes.for instance, look at the size of my laptop's hard drive.look at the size in bytes, its 39,999,987,712 byteswhich, if you divide by 1024 (thats how many bytes in one kilobyte) and then divide by that 2 more times, you will get the disk size in GB.Example: 39999987712 / 1024 = 39062488 KB39062488 / 1024 = 38146.9609375 MB38146.9609375 / 1024 = 37.25289154052734375which is, 37.25 GBthe reason they do it this way (my opinion), is because the cost of the drive is lower than if they were to make it exactly 40GB. if they did that, instead of paying $50 (aprox) for a drive, you'd pay closer to $100 or so. is it really worth the extra $50 just for an extra 2.75GB? Edited December 3, 2006 by Cygnus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqie Fox Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 (edited) That is Si units which are pretty popular in many areas due to manufacturers wanting to make their device look faster or like it has more space.1 GiB = 1,000MiB = 1,000,000KiB = 1,000,000,000 Bytes1GB = 1,024MB = 1,048,576KB = 1,073,741,824 BytesNot labeling Si units as such is misleading and someone should enforce it, TBH. Edited December 3, 2006 by jaqie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bledd Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 do you mean you're using a hard drive that's over 127gb, but its only showing up as 127? (might be 139 i can't rememeber) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqie Fox Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 do you mean you're using a hard drive that's over 127gb, but its only showing up as 127? (might be 139 i can't rememeber)The limitation is indeed 137GB.This is the very reason I said what I did in my first post...To break the 137GB limit, google "48 bit addressing" or "137Gb limit" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt476 Posted December 4, 2006 Author Share Posted December 4, 2006 yes i do mean unlimited hard drive storage space to what u want. you all correct. without limation. they love to make money of the limation. Is there away to make ti unlimited?Hello jaqie, you have to understant one thing. my details are always limited. read between the lines for when i'm trying to make out the details. thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prx984 Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 you can't make the drive unlimited. its a physical limitation of the disk.the technology isnt at a part where the drive can be unlimited, theres always limitations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt476 Posted December 4, 2006 Author Share Posted December 4, 2006 are u sure about the hard drive with the llimations? beacue someone told me there is more hidden space. and everyhing isn't reformated to it's fulliest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jroc Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 are u sure about the hard drive with the llimations? beacue someone told me there is more hidden space. and everyhing isn't reformated to it's fulliest.yes there is a limit...what your referring to is the Drive Manufacture always includes some 'spare sectors' to replace bad sectors...you can't see them..only time you will see them is when you get a 'warning' that your drive is failing and you've used up them 'spare sectors'...its called 'Smart Drive' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lion.12345678910 Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 are u sure about the hard drive with the llimations? beacue someone told me there is more hidden space. and everyhing isn't reformated to it's fulliest.yes there is a limit...what your referring to is the Drive Manufacture always includes some 'spare sectors' to replace bad sectors...you can't see them..only time you will see them is when you get a 'warning' that your drive is failing and you've used up them 'spare sectors'...its called 'Smart Drive'Yes, I Believe That Is What He/She Is Reffering to. (I Read About Those Drives In A Magizine [i Can't Remember Which]) And I Don't Believe That There Is A Way To Reformat The Drive And Be Able To Get Those Extra Tracks (As The Drive Is Programed [in the fimware, I believe] To Set Those Tracks Aside For It's Own Purposes [eg. Smart Drive Repair or Maybe Hibernating]) So Maybe If You Make Your Own Firmware, You Might be Able To Get Those Extra Tracks...~Lion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepoluan Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 That is Si units which are pretty popular in many areas due to manufacturers wanting to make their device look faster or like it has more space.1 GiB = 1,000MiB = 1,000,000KiB = 1,000,000,000 Bytes1GB = 1,024MB = 1,048,576KB = 1,073,741,824 BytesNot labeling Si units as such is misleading and someone should enforce it, TBH.Uh, you got it wrong way around.The SI unit is GB = gigabyte = 1'000'000'000 byteThe GiB is IEC's "Binary System" = 0 x 4000 0000 = 1'073'741'824 byteCheck the following links:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefixMarketing will label hard drives as, e.g. 80 GB = 80'000'000'000 byte which is about 77 GiB.Windows is the one that's wrong, writing 77 GiB as 77 GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqie Fox Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 I could definitely be backwards on that. thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt476 Posted December 5, 2006 Author Share Posted December 5, 2006 (edited) Yes, I Believe That Is What He/She Is Reffering to. (I Read About Those Drives In A Magizine [i Can't Remember Which]) And I Don't Believe That There Is A Way To Reformat The Drive And Be Able To Get Those Extra Tracks (As The Drive Is Programed [in the fimware, I believe] To Set Those Tracks Aside For It's Own Purposes [eg. Smart Drive Repair or Maybe Hibernating]) So Maybe If You Make Your Own Firmware, You Might be Able To Get Those Extra Tracksthat's the anwser reprogram the firmware. do u think reprograming the firmware is pssible? Edited December 5, 2006 by kurt476 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jroc Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Yes, I Believe That Is What He/She Is Reffering to. (I Read About Those Drives In A Magizine [i Can't Remember Which]) And I Don't Believe That There Is A Way To Reformat The Drive And Be Able To Get Those Extra Tracks (As The Drive Is Programed [in the fimware, I believe] To Set Those Tracks Aside For It's Own Purposes [eg. Smart Drive Repair or Maybe Hibernating]) So Maybe If You Make Your Own Firmware, You Might be Able To Get Those Extra Tracksthat's the anwser reprogram the firmware. do u think reprograming the firmware is pssible?I really don't understand your reasoning behind this...just for a few 'sectors' that probably don't even add up to a few mbs...if your that in need for 'space'...just purchase a bigger drive...LOL...think about this...lets say you do 'hack' the firmware and you do lose a sector...your drive will not be able to 'replace' them and let you continue..but you will be forced to 'low level' format then and start your OS over again...expecially if your lose your first sectors (boot sectors). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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