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Paul 365

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Ok i tried the load/unload way and it worked - However it did stop the install.cmd from running directly after the reg unload bit. I am going to try it without the load/unload now.

If anyone else has tried this, does your menus tick? Where is that setup?

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A little off topic but I am having trouble getting a few reg tweaks to work. I run my reg tweak in the cmdlines.txt but have problems with the visualeffects section of my reg tweaks. It does not load my visual effects tweak. It does not also load my superhidden for the advance explorer.

;Main Explorer Tweaks

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]"HideFileExt"=dword:00000000

"ListviewAlphaSelect"=dword:00000000

"ListviewShadow"=dword:00000000

"ListviewWatermark"=dword:00000000

"TaskbarAnimations"=dword:00000000

"SuperHidden"=dword:00000001

"Start_EnableDragDrop"=dword:00000001

"TaskbarGlomming"=dword:00000000

"TaskbarSizeMove"=dword:00000001

;Disable Taskbar Hide Inactive Icons

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer]

"EnableAutoTray"=dword:00000000

;Visual Effects

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\VisualEffects]

"VisualFXSetting"=dword:00000003

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\VisualEffects\AnimateMinMax]

"DefaultApplied"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\VisualEffects\ComboBoxAnimation]

"DefaultApplied"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\VisualEffects\CursorShadow]

"DefaultApplied"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\VisualEffects\DragFullWindows]

"DefaultApplied"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\VisualEffects\DropShadow]

"DefaultValue"=dword:00000001

"DefaultApplied"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\VisualEffects\FontSmoothing]

"DefaultValue"=dword:00000001

"DefaultApplied"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\VisualEffects\ListBoxSmoothScrolling]

"DefaultApplied"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\VisualEffects\ListviewAlphaSelect]

"DefaultValue"=dword:00000001

"DefaultApplied"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\VisualEffects\ListviewShadow]

"DefaultValue"=dword:00000001

"DefaultApplied"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\VisualEffects\ListviewWatermark]

"DefaultValue"=dword:00000001

"DefaultApplied"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\VisualEffects\MenuAnimation]

"DefaultValue"=dword:00000001

"DefaultApplied"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\VisualEffects\SelectionFade]

"DefaultValue"=dword:00000001

"DefaultApplied"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\VisualEffects\TaskbarAnimations]

"DefaultValue"=dword:00000001

"DefaultApplied"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\VisualEffects\Themes]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\VisualEffects\TooltipAnimation]

"DefaultValue"=dword:00000001

"DefaultApplied"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\VisualEffects\WebView]

"DefaultApplied"=dword:00000001

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Ok i tried the load/unload way and it worked - However it did stop the install.cmd from running directly after the reg unload bit. I am going to try it without the load/unload now.

If anyone else has tried this, does your menus tick? Where is that setup?

http://www.myitforum.com/forums/m.asp?m=30850&p=2&tmode=1

Here is the original thread Paul where they talk about the why.

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I read through that when you first posted this, but it dosn't answer my questions.

I have tried this twice now - both times it worked but both times it terminated the batch file it was running from - ending cmdlines.txt process.

I think it needs to be set in its own cmd file and then called from the install.cmd that is run from cmdlines.txt, hopefully this will allow the continuation of the install.cmd. if not then it should be placed at the end of the process.

I havent tried it without the load/unload bit yet nor have i tried the reg /s import method - i'll get to it today.

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Through my experience I would have to say the regedit is the way to go, purely on ease.

reg command is handy to remove and add simple entries but more complex ones like the quick launch can be a pain to convert.

How about everyone else?

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I agree 100% with the snoozer, but then if you cannot do it with a batch file and regedit, it's not for me. If I were to use another method, I would simply log on to a new installation, make all my desired changes, save the user's registry hive file (NTUSER.DAT), and copy it to the Default User's profile during setup.

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I agree, the registry method is the preferred way. By the way, I notice my values for the quick launch hack is different from what you gave us. Does that matters? I haven't got the chance to test it yet because I'm waiting to correct other bugs that I have in my unattended files and also organizing my various tweaks.

It really sucks that there is no easy way to save settings for Visual Effects and Windows Explorer's Folder View settings. I think the only workaround is to install a new installation and make the tweaks and save the ntusers.dat and copy over to the Default User profile.

I wish someone can write a nice tools that save all the common Windows setting. Anyone Windows programmer for this? :)

-Kenneth

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if i export my registry from the desktop now its all setup and installed, then apply it whilst setup is running on install, will it save all me settings etc? and also will it let me install me games ie mohaa or will it say there allready installed and i need to uninstall even though there not installed?

hope that makes sense

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To answer your quesiton, Atomic7431. It is best use the ntuser.dat method for clean installation. Meaning a new installation, not an upgrade or repair installation. When you do a clean installation with the ntuser.dat copy over to the Default User in the cmdline.txt, it will effects all new user accounts that is created. The ntuser.dat only saves the Current User and Local Machine registry settings. Please correct me if I'm work on this.

-Kenneth

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To answer your quesiton, Atomic7431. It is best use the ntuser.dat method for clean installation. Meaning a new installation, not an upgrade or repair installation. When you do a clean installation with the ntuser.dat copy over to the Default User in the cmdline.txt, it will effects all new user accounts that is created. The ntuser.dat only saves the Current User and Local Machine registry settings. Please correct me if I'm work on this.

-Kenneth

Kenneth, Green Machine, I'm a little slow in the noggin, so bear with me here. If I'm reading this thread correctly, I can use a preconfigured NTUSER.DAT file taken from ComputerX, copy that file onto my installation disc, and then apply those same settings to all user accounts created on ComputerY.

I have an NTUSER.DAT file ready to go, about 768kb, but I've doubtless mucked something up 'cause it ain't workin' :rolleyes:

My Cmdlines.txt file looks like this:

[COMMANDS]

".\Setup.cmd"

My Setup.cmd file looks like this:

CLS

@ECHO OFF

REGEDIT /S %systemdrive%\Extras\Setup.reg

regedit /s %systemdrive%\Extras\qlb.reg

copy "%systemdrive%\Extras\NTUSER\ntuser.dat" "%systemdrive%\Documents and Settings\Default User\"

EXIT

My setup.reg file installs my apps per the well-executed Windows Setup method discussed at length in this forum. :D Works like a charm.

I'm getting ready to apply the qlb.reg tweak now, and suspect it will work. But the {{copy "%systemdrive%\Extras\NTUSER\ntuser.dat" "%systemdrive%\Documents and Settings\Default User\"}} just isn't right. It seems too simple. What am I missing, other than a few years of expertise. :) I'm no computer expert, but I'm pretty good at following explicit direction.

Thanks.

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Snoozer, your reg file route to enabling the Quick Launch for all users works great! Think I'm gonna try adding ALL registry tweaks to the Cmdlines.txt/install.cmd (or in my case, Setup.cmd) portion of my installation and forego the ntuser.dat copy operation. Thanks again, youse guys are gods! :)

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BlinkDT: I would say the quoted post is close, not quite correct.

Yes, you can preconfure NTUSER.DAT, copy it over, and all your settings will be applied to the new users.

768 kb is a perfectly acceptable size for NTUSET.DAT - it is probably not corrupt.

C:\Documents and Settings\Default User\NTUSER.DAT (your actual milage may vary ...) cannot be updated from the CMDLINES.TXT file, or the SVCPACK.INF file, as it is in use at the time. I would think you can copy it over from GuiRunOnce, the only inconvenience being that the settings will be applied to new users, but not the Administrator, as that account has already been initialized. I have not tried it, but I'm sure it can be made to work. If you are not that confident in your programming skills, this may be the simplest answer. You should then use any account other than the administrator, and you have your settings. you could also remove the administrators profile - not the account, just the files (C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\), and it would generate a new, updated profile, settings included. I just import the settings I need into the registry from CMDLINES.TXT, and I manage to have adjusted all as I like it. You could export your entire NTUSER.DAT, weed out what you know is irrelevent, and import it during CMDLINES.TXT, and you would probably find it works for you. There are many solutions to creating a custom default user profile, the difficulty is in automating the procedure. Perhaps manualy coping the NTUSER.DAT after set may even meet your needs.

As far as explicit instructions, I cannot help you there until I understand what you final objective is (what's wrong with the MS default profile?...), and what method you choose to implement it. You should also consider updating the default user profile once you have all your software installed as you like it. I do not try to auto-install much software (mainly software that does not require an installation program, my favorite type). Once I have completed my installation manually, I copy the configured profile setting over to the Default User profile, using the My Computer right click - properties - advanced - user profiles / settings, copy to ...

Hope that helps.

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You will find that this method works just as well, and keeps with the consistency of all of your other reg hacks.

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Streams\Desktop]"Default Taskbar"=hex:0c,00,00,00,08,00,00,00,02,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,b0,e2,2b,\

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"TaskbarWinXP"=hex:0c,00,00,00,08,00,00,00,02,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,b0,e2,2b,\

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BTW: the reason for the two values in the same key is because one works with SP1 and the other one works with preSP1. It does not hurt to have both. The second value is all that is needed for SP1 and above. They changed the key in SP1.

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