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Drugwash,

Okay, imdb.com, yes nice website. Been there, good stuff.

Why? Did you mean BitTorrent (newly merged with uTorrent) doing some deals to make legit movie downloads? I don't think I've ever downloaded a movie anyway. Same with music. All the thousands of mp3's on my computer are ripped from cd's I own. I just use that as a conveniance so I don't need to keep cd's near my computer and swap 'em out to change albums. I just use WMP or Winamp libraries to access the songs.

Not all torrent fan's use them to get stuff free that we're supposed to buy. Sometimes there are old, not available things or big files people post and torrents are conveniant ways to distribute them.

Ooh! Yeah, get Link21 all riled up. Love to read threads with his stuff. Fun. (You weren't seriously angered, eh? He just offers his pretty out there opinions. I think mostly to p-ss people off. He reminds me of Elvis Is Alive who used to come up with all sorts of outlandish things in 3dfx Voodoo card threads. ROFL material!) Those kinds of things may be frowned upon on boards with serious stuff going on but a little off the wall humor lightens the day in my view.

For anyone wondering, an old, old thread regarding Link21 was revived when his childish POS OS rantings managed to rankle our friend here. Whew, he really gave it to him. It's like Rock-em Sock-em robots!

98SE will live forever! It stirs up hormones we forgot we had!

Soporific,

Just reminding you that another update to 98SE2ME and 98MP10 is up. Yeah, I turn those off and do them myself but in case you hadn't noticed there you are!

Just waiting for you now before redoing my computer. Since 98's the first thing that gets installed I'm waiting on the newest version of autopatcher before getting started. No rush! Get it right, but I'm just saying.

And thanks for what I think is the easiest way to get 98SE all ready to go.

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I'm no Link21, don't worry. I like people who have the sense of humor. :)

Information is nothing but that: information. People decide what to do with it. :)

As for "redoing" a machine... my 200MHz PentiumMMX has its Windows 98SE installed since November 2004. That's because my old HDD crashed, otherwise it would have been much older. I just hate (re)installing. I see XP people reinstalling every few weeks/months and I wonder why... Is that the way a computer should work? Should the user waste time reinstalling every whatever amount of days/weeks/months? What kind of an operating system is that, that requires reinstalling so often, regardless of users' (lack of) computer knowledge?

Oh... sorry for the off-topic. It's almost 5 AM in Melbourne...

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I'm no Link21, don't worry. I like people who have the sense of humor. :)

Information is nothing but that: information. People decide what to do with it. :)

As for "redoing" a machine... my 200MHz PentiumMMX has its Windows 98SE installed since November 2004. That's because my old HDD crashed, otherwise it would have been much older. I just hate (re)installing. I see XP people reinstalling every few weeks/months and I wonder why... Is that the way a computer should work? Should the user waste time reinstalling every whatever amount of days/weeks/months? What kind of an operating system is that, that Arequires reinstalling so often, regardless of users' (lack of) computer knowledge?

Oh... sorry for the off-topic. It's almost 5 AM in Melbourne...

This should perhaps be filed under tips but there really is *no* need whatsoever in the vast majority of cases to re-install win98SE. Here's what to do:

(1) Somehow or other get a copy of Ghost 2003, standalone. It fits on a floppy disk and runs from DOS.

(2) When you have a working stable win98SE system, use Ghost 2003 to back-up your C:\ partition, and any other partitions, on to either a DVD-R (it will span DVD-Rs if necessary) or another hard disk.

(3) Then simply restore the partitions if your PC hard disk or something else goes belly-up. Or if you want to clone on to another PC. It's never let me down once in four years.

Futher info SEE: http://ghost.radified.com/norton_ghost_2003.htm

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Out of curiosity, I ran a report on my current system, which only has a few official updates and some manual upgrades installed. The list of *not found* updates is impressive, however I found some of the items that I do have installed are still reported as uninstalled. Grrrrr... So here we go:

• dun14-se: Dial-Up Networking 1.4 for Windows 98se (official package installed)

• DirectX9: DirectX 9.0c (October 2006) (August 2006 installed; does it know it's August and not October?)

• q323455: Directory Services Client Update for Windows 98 (official package installed)

• UCopy2GB: Unofficial Fix for Bug When Copying Files Over 2gb in Explorer (manually installed)

• 48BITLBA: Unofficial Update for Drives over 137gb (not for IBM portables) (manually installed)

• 7-ZIP: 7-Zip 4.42 (file archiver) (already installed 4.43 beta - don't ask where from, it was out there)

This is EXACTLY what I need to see to improve auto-patcher. Thank you very very very very very very very very (you get the idea) much.

Yes, the DirectX install can distinguish between August and October. That should work. The rest I'll check ... I have improved the code for DUN 1.4 so v1.8 should already have that fixed. I'll check the rest out ...

I'm uploading v1.8 to a public server as I type so grab that ASAP and use that for further testing.

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With the exception of some 98SE trials and tribulations in just getting a working system to finish being built (my problems involved IOS bootup errors. See some of my other posts ranting and wondering what the heck was the reason. Never found out), my fresh reinstalls of XP or what have you are normally on purpose.

I've got a bunch of free time as I just take care of my sick elderly Mom. It's been like that for a few years now. So some of this time is spent playing around with different hardware/software configurations.

Like now. I've got a perfectly operational setup with XP. And I have a 98SE install that I have running in VMWare. (Strange that those VMWare 98SE setups never give me a problem.) Nothing wrong at all and it does everything I could possibly want.

When I was visiting another forum I posted a grumble regarding Vista being sold at such a high price. Especially the full retail Ultimate Edition. I could say the same for Office, but I do see there's a new release for Home/Student that really has the programs I install anyway. I guess that's instead of an upgrade to their WorksSuite series. It is still $30 more than the WorksSuite used to be (and that's not counting that I usually bought it on sale), and doesn't contain the other software programs that made the suite a good buy. Since I already got the new Encarta Premium and Digital Image, that plus the stuff in the Office 2007 Home thing is all I'd want now. I don't bother with Outlook so I wouldn't miss that.

Anyway, a poster replied something like, "Sounds like you need Linux." That was the whole post. The next guy said, "Uh Oh, here we go!" No OS war resulted but it perked my interest.

After reading up and downloading stuff I figured I'd do a bit of a different configuration. It'll be fun!

That's all. No problems here with the box, but I just want to plug the stuff in a different way. I'll still be using Windows but it'll be an experience messing around in the Linux world too.

So you see that with my constantly changing a lot of my hardware (yes I call Microsoft a lot for activation. I'm talking swapping out motherboards, soundcards,etc.) and some very different software setups, Ghosting isn't really a suitable process for me. I wouldn't want to use what I Ghosted as I'd want too many things to be different.

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soporific:

eMule is running here about 24/7 - I'm official translator for my language and I'm playing a lot with it. So an eD2k link is always welcome, as far as I'm concerned. It does take a while to complete a download - that's the idea of the network - but at least I get it integer. My connection is not that good to allow me downloading almost 200MB in one shot from within the browser, and I don't have Premium accounts on public hosts. Plus I'm testing alpha/beta software and crashes/freezes happen on a regular basis.

Analada:

As for "ghosting"... problem is: (2) When you have a working stable win98SE system [...]. That almost never happens, because there's always some tinkering to do, some application to install/replace/uninstall, some hardware to change, etc. Just like Eck above said. But yes, there are people that might like preserving certain configurations and Ghost may come in handy. Not me, for now.

Eck:

I've been foolin' around with a few live Linux distros myself: Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Knoppix. Not bad, but I'm missing a certain "feeling", plus a few key (IMO) options/features. Still planning to dig deeper into the concept, but I'm either lacking the time or the will to do it.

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soporific:

eMule is running here about 24/7 - I'm official translator for my language and I'm playing a lot with it. So an eD2k link is always welcome, as far as I'm concerned. It does take a while to complete a download - that's the idea of the network - but at least I get it integer. My connection is not that good to allow me downloading almost 200MB in one shot from within the browser, and I don't have Premium accounts on public hosts. Plus I'm testing alpha/beta software and crashes/freezes happen on a regular basis.

Analada:

As for "ghosting"... problem is: (2) When you have a working stable win98SE system [...]. That almost never happens, because there's always some tinkering to do, some application to install/replace/uninstall, some hardware to change, etc. Just like Eck above said. But yes, there are people that might like preserving certain configurations and Ghost may come in handy. Not me, for now.

Eck:

I've been foolin' around with a few live Linux distros myself: Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Knoppix. Not bad, but I'm missing a certain "feeling", plus a few key (IMO) options/features. Still planning to dig deeper into the concept, but I'm either lacking the time or the will to do it.

A couple of years ago I spent six months on linux. Downloaded every distro and gave them a workout. Same as you I missed a certain "feeling". Also got fed up with endless configuration files. Still it has its place.

Now as regards Ghost 2003. I think it could really help a load of people on this forum given the postings on reinstallation. To expand on what I said before: --

When you have a working and stable (yes it should be) win98se with your commonly used applications/games installed, do a Ghost of the partition(s). Let's call it backup A. Then a few weeks later do another on separate DVD-R/2nd HD: backup B. Then if after subsequently installing some software that messes up your system revert to backup B. Do subsequent backups regularly and cycle the DVD-R media.

If you do this it's highly unlikely that you'll ever have a problem that you can't solve quickly and easily. For example I can replace C: partition and reboot perfectly within 6 minutes, complete with all configurations and customisations. What other software or procedure can achieve that?

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welcome to the battle of the century: my fight to get a 244mb file up onto a free file server.

I'll keep the stats of this batte updated frequently

No of failed uploads: 4

No of different file hosters: 2

No. of times it got to over 80% and then failed: 3

No. of times it got to over 95% and then failed: 2

No. of times it got to over 99% and then failed: 1

No. of hours of wasted upload bandwidth (at about 20kbps): 8

No. of times I've wanted to do something nasty to the people behind these websites: 3

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soporific:

eMule is running here about 24/7 - I'm official translator for my language and I'm playing a lot with it. So an eD2k link is always welcome, as far as I'm concerned. It does take a while to complete a download - that's the idea of the network - but at least I get it integer. My connection is not that good to allow me downloading almost 200MB in one shot from within the browser, and I don't have Premium accounts on public hosts. Plus I'm testing alpha/beta software and crashes/freezes happen on a regular basis

Another 24/7 emuler ... good on you man. Have you ditched your TV like I have? I got rid of it 6 years ago, and I don't consider it a loss, as I get everything I watch from the mule. If anybody is still watching ads, paying megabucks for music, megabucks for softare ... then get with the program. You DO need to know how to forward ports if you are behind a router or gateway, and you DO need to start collecting credit so as your downloads can run like water through a pipe. I reckon I'm one of the wealthiest people in the world when it comes to emule credits. When I want something from the network, bam, i've got it.

Emule, emule, emule ... i do NOT KNOW what I would do without it. Everyone, take the HINT!!!

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What's that a TV?! You're way ahead of me, I ditched it only about 2 years ago, together with the radios. I got enough instant messaging IDs to ask people when I need to know something.

And eMule is good too for documentaries that would never get on TV or elsewhere public. And not only, but let's not push it. :whistle:

Anyway, where's the eD2k link for v1.8? :rolleyes:

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Off we go! But... no sources. Please check link and make sure eMule is running and the file is shared. :whistle:

One thing - this package is supposed to be installed on all kinds of configurations, not only freshly installed systems. Some of them may be heavily tweaked already, with much newer file versions than the ones to be installed by this package. I'm curious if anybody checked all components against automatically overwriting newer file versions.

Another thing is that my autoexec.bat contains the following (and I may not be the only one using this trick):

@deltree /y c:\windows\cookies
@deltree /y c:\windows\history
@deltree /y c:\windows\tempor~1
@deltree /y c:\windows\temp
@md c:\windows\temp

If this package unpacks itself in the temporary folder set by environment variables and that folder gets wiped out on each reboot, that'd be a bit of a problem. Yes, the user could remove/comment those lines, if he knew about them, but if he doesn't (system tweaked by a friend/specialist/etc.), he'd report a broken package.

So, would it be possible to create and use a folder of its own instead, just to be on the safe side?

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Off we go! But... no sources. Please check link and make sure eMule is running and the file is shared. :whistle:

http://sharethefiles.com/forum/ed2kstats.p...iew_release.exe

One thing - this package is supposed to be installed on all kinds of configurations, not only freshly installed systems. Some of them may be heavily tweaked already, with much newer file versions than the ones to be installed by this package.

OK, the limitation of the program at the moment is that only one file in each package is checked for its file version. If I choose the wrong one (usually its obvious which one to use) then we get into trouble. So its these things that I can't test until I get feedback. The code definitely works for clean systems, but I guess some that have been up for years will have all sorts of junk on it doing who knows what to whichever. Or something ...

So, would it be possible to create and use a folder of its own instead, just to be on the safe side?

I'll make the change for the next version, definitely.

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The torrent reports 0 seeders (I think you have to seed it first) and a 0 for download availability. Hmm, something's not right there. I downloaded a couple of other torrents just to check it and uTorrent downloaded them perfectly.

For at least RapidShare you do know that you need to split it into 100MB parts? WinRAR will put them all together again when extracting. I don't mean split your program. I mean for example when you Rar it up you tell it to create it in 100MB parts. That's file001.rar, file002.rar, etc. Then I download each one and put them all into the same folder and right click the first and extract it to a folder. It then all becomes one file again.

But then, you likely know about that. Just making sure.

Besides that this forum (all of msfn.org) is having problems now on my Internet Explorer 7. I links to the main forum work, but the individual sub-forums leave an error page.

I needed to search for auto-patcher. That link led me back here. I don't think this is my machine. The forum worked fine a couple of hours ago.

Okay, the forum is back up but there is still nothing coming from the torrent.

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The torrent reports 0 seeders (I think you have to seed it first) and a 0 for download availability. Hmm, something's not right there. I downloaded a couple of other torrents just to check it and uTorrent downloaded them perfectly.

Maybe check the torrent again, I've changed some settings that could have been blocking attempts. Also, starting the seeding process could help out as well (!! talk about a newbie !!) --- I also fixed the TCP limit bug (my file sharng computer has only just been rebuilt --- yes that's right, an entire computer to serve the cause of file sharing.)

I'll also try rapidshare today, I'll do the split into parts, I know what you mean.

All my overnight uploads failed. I had 2 going .... grrrrrr

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