Jeremy Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 I've just moved to the security-less suite. No firewall, no AV. I've been running this way for a week now without problems.I do the same on one of my machines, but it's one that I don't store data on, don't use for banking, etc. People who know what they're doing can get away with it, but as a mod I'm not sure you should be suggesting this is a good idea, without saying why. People new here might follow by example, and get in trouble.He's not suggesting anything. The way you interpret what he says is up to you, not him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zxian Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 I do the same on one of my machines, but it's one that I don't store data on, don't use for banking, etc. People who know what they're doing can get away with it, but as a mod I'm not sure you should be suggesting this is a good idea, without saying why. People new here might follow by example, and get in trouble.I'm not suggesting that people follow my lead and toss their anti-virus and firewalls out the window - I'm just telling people what I've done. Security software is really only needed if you think that you're going to make a mistake while on the internet. I've had NOD32 running on my system for a good 2 years now, and it only had to stop one virus - one that was entirely my fault. As for the firewall - I've never really seen Outpost or Sygate block anything deadly serious. The primary use of them was to stop anything from connecting to other computers in the event that my computer was infected, which hasn't been the case.If you're confident that you have safe internet techniques, then and only then, can you take the risk of running without security software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 You know, correct me if I'm wrong, but that really looks like spamming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigeratiPrime Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 spam gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bledd Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 windows sp2 firewall + hardware router, no need for anything elseI've just moved to the security-less suite. No firewall, no AV. I've been running this way for a week now without problems. Outpost started giving me problems when I tried to connect to my university servers, so I went to nothing.no AV, no spyware protection is the way forward speeeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zxian Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Indeed - speed is good. It just requires not being silly when it comes to browsing the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uid0 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 I used to run an ipcop box in a house I shared. Didn't stop my housemate Alan from picking up everything available, when his pc finally ground to a halt he'd got 22,000 infected files. I had to run a software firewall just to keep his machine away from mineNow I usually only run outpost if I'm trying new software, to see if it does anything unexpected. I'd keep it on permanently if I wasn't behind a router though, or if I still shared a subnet with Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsycoUnc Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 lol, I hear ya, I've never been infected, even tho 95% of the time I don't run AV (and never firewall; router plus smart settings is good enough)... tho I've loaded-up my (dam) nephew's puter (on same subnet) with protection, and he still manages (weekly!) to get more infected than a Roadie... --and guess who gets to mop it all up, over and over? ...-Finally, his cs started really lagging from infection/corruption, and I refused to do a reinstall for him, so he's learned his lesson and now stays (relatively) clean... avoids warez, spends at least 1/2 sec thinkin bout it before rapid-fire clicking everything in sight, etc...>;] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 What programs do you use to clean up his miss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyntaxError Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 I use PC-Cillin IS 2006, but I'm going to setup a Smoothwall box if I can find a new socket 370 mobo for my old pc. I'm also behind a Linksys router.I've tried at least a dozen different firewall apps, and none offer the control of PC-Cillin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouvda Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 look'n'stop is a pretty good firewall, i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylvianorth Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Used to use Zone Alarm, but then I realised that I didn't need any firewall...Turned it off a year ago and still no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 If you're behind a router and know of the following:Don't open unknown e-mails/attachmentsDon't surf pr0n/warez with IEDon't download archives/EXEs from p2p programs, if you do, scan them with good anti-virus (Kaspersky, NOD32, AntiVir, www.av-comparatives.orgDon't accept everything and anything over MSNUse harddrive imaging software (Ghost, True Image) or Deep Freeze on public workstationsthen you don't really need a software firewall. Zxian and myself have been without one for a while and no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitroshift Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 At home I was running NOD32 and Outpost Firewall for a while, then decided to see what happens if I get rid of them. For almost a month now, I'm still virus and malware free. (Reinstalled NOD32 yesterday for a scan and found nothing. NOTHING!). I'm behind a DSL router and using common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zxian Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 @nitroshift - That's been my viewpoint for a while now. Security software should be there for the times when the user makes a mistake. I remember clicking on a picture link on MSN once, and then going "oh crap...". At the time, I had NOD32 installed, and the big red virus alert showed up. It's the only time that I've seen that window.Security should be primarily up to the user, and secondarily up to the security software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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