PROBLEMCHYLD Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I get this error when I install MDAC 2.8SP1 with all options checked in the service pack. The weird thing is, when you run the MDAC option by itself everything installs without errors or when you install all options without MDAC you get no errors. Anyone know how to fix this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PROBLEMCHYLD Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Note that "Performance Tweaks" and "Power Management Trouble Shooter" options were grayed out -- "Performance Tweaks" probably because it has 96mb RAM (uSP 3.0 uses 128mb as the limit, whereas uSP 2.1a used 64mb), but i'm not sure why "Power Management Trouble Shooter" was grayed out. - Doug B.It was a bug, thanks to you I was able to fix it instantly. People have to understand what I mean by testing. We are (NOT)here to see if the files work, we are here to make sure they all install correctly along with the registry keys. We know the files workbecause we have been using them for years. Thanks for testing. I will send you a sneak peak of the final build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredledingue Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Problemchyld,Just like that: Try to set a "wait" time (or delay) in the installation script.Maybe the computer needs a rest, or need to finish a task even if this task is reportedly finished.In DOS you can run wait.exe, a small executable which does only that.3 independant versions here:http://www.createwindow.com/raewebsite/rae-watx.htmor'>http://www.petersen.de/content/contenido-4.6.4/cms/front_content.php?idart=163or'>http://dpotter.net/technical/2007/09/utility-to-wait-for-a-process-waitexe/I suggest to set a 3 second delay between each update.(you can't have fractions of a second unfortunately).As MDGX used to say: HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PROBLEMCHYLD Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Thanks Fred, but it only happens on MDAC. I 've been reading online about mdac memory leak. I believe mdachas to be installed by itself. I 'll try the links you gave and see what happens. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TmEE Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I suggest adding a warning to the package or the page that says something like this :"if you have previously installed autopatcher then DO NOT install uSP3, it will result in unbootable windows (including safe mode)" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PROBLEMCHYLD Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I suggest adding a warning to the package or the page that says something like this :"if you have previously installed autopatcher then DO NOT install uSP3, it will result in unbootable windows (including safe mode)"Now I see why people are having trouble with the service pack. Some people are too lazy to back up their systems. Some people are too lazy to try the service pack on a clean install. So when the problems occur, due to negligence, it's not my fault. I don't even test SP3 with SP2 because of all the changes. I have invested 8 months day and night to get where I'm @ with the service pack. I can handle constructive criticism and negative feedback. What I can't handle is people not following instructions by not reading the fine print. I have never heard the term until dencorso posted it. PEBCAK.It's been posted many times not to mix these packages with each other.Unofficial Windows 98 SE Upgrade Pack (WUPG) Dozen Afterlife Edition November 2010Unofficial Windows 98 SE Auto-Patcher v2.60Unofficial Windows 98/98 SP1/98 SE/ME Power Pack (W9xPP) 5.01Unofficial Windows 98 SE Service Pack 2 (SP2) Anyway, i installed no manufacturer-provided USB device drivers, and my USB flash discs, Zip drive, portable harddisk, diskette drives, camera (which appears as a flash disc), and a multi-card reader (which appears as multiple "Generic Storage Device"s) all installed ok after plugging them in. (The other card reader was not so lucky -- identified as "eUSB SmartMedia Adapter" -- Windows couldn't find a suitable driver. And i did have to tell the system that the portable harddisk was "removable" via Device Manager > Disk Drives > Settings; otherwise, it acted quirky.) - Doug B.Can you list the drivers for your device so it can be added to the USB files? Thank you for testing on a clean install.When I release the final version Monday, it should be smooth sailing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyb Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 (edited) Looking forward to Monday! I still don't know what PEBCAK means. I'm standing by with my trusty windows 98se install cds, misc drivers, and six completely different old systems with drives empty and formatted and ready to roll. Edited April 21, 2012 by billyb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PROBLEMCHYLD Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Looking forward to Monday! I still don't know what PEBCAK means. I'm standing by with my trusty windows 98se install cds, misc drivers, and six completely different old systems with drives empty and formatted and ready to roll.Service Pack 3 won't let you down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dencorso Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Looking forward to Monday! I still don't know what PEBCAK means. I'm standing by with my trusty windows 98se install cds, misc drivers, and six completely different old systems with drives empty and formatted and ready to roll.PEBCAK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aurgathor Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 (edited) Wow!! What a surprise! There's a final SP 3.0!! I guess that's what I get when I miss a year. Congrats for finishing it up, but I have a few nags:1) why did "command prompt here" get removed?2) how can I view a folder as webpage? As of B4, there used to be an option to set that , but it's no more...3) what happened with the "Quick launch" toolbar? Not able to find it or enable it... Lastly, I saw that windowsupdate related files were removed, but the entry in the start menu was left there, so I could still click it, though obviously it didn't work.TIA Edited April 21, 2012 by aurgathor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PROBLEMCHYLD Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Wow!! What a surprise! There's a final SP 3.0!! I guess that's what I get when I miss a year. The final version will be release Monday, April 23, 2012.1) why did "command prompt here" get removed?It was more of an tweak than enhancement.2) how can I view a folder as webpage? As of B4, there used to be an option to set that , but it's no more...Not in this package.3) what happened with the "Quick launch" toolbar? Not able to find it or enable it... This service pack has nothing to do with anything Quick launch related.Just like that: Try to set a "wait" time (or delay) in the installation script.Maybe the computer needs a rest, or need to finish a task even if this task is reportedly finished.When installing MDAC, it eats up all the memory. I have tried different combinations of installations with the same results. I believe its a memory leak. The only way I know how to fix it, is to install Mdac separately from all the other options.So overall, i'm quite impressed with the ease of installation, up-to-date-ness, and increase in functionality that uSP provides. (Except for the "Win95 Shell Swap" option as previously mentioned -- watch out!) It makes re-installing Windows 98SE *so* much-less painful and tedious... and much-less "hit and miss". Kudos!I have removed the Win95 shell swap option in the final build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TmEE Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 (edited) Now I see why people are having trouble with the service pack. Some people are too lazy to back up their systems. Some people are too lazy to try the service pack on a clean install. So when the problems occur, due to negligence, it's not my fault. I don't even test SP3 with SP2 because of all the changes. I have invested 8 months day and night to get where I'm @ with the service pack. I can handle constructive criticism and negative feedback. What I can't handle is people not following instructions by not reading the fine print. I have never heard the term until dencorso posted it. PEBCAK.It's been posted many times not to mix these packages with each other.I did back up everything up, its just an additional reminder for people who don't I cannot recall any warning explicitly saying the windows installation most likely / will fail when certain previous updates are installed which is why I made the post in the first place. Many people don't RTFM and don't bother to go through a huge forum topic with lot of info that is not related to current forms and flavors of uSP.One can safely install uSP3 before AutoPatcher, but not after it, at least that is what my testing has showed (and what one friend of mine experienced). Half the updates in Autopatcher won't install as uSP3 installs newer versions, here's a list of what AP does install in addition to what uSP3 doesn't with my AP configuration :q239887 - Windows 98 Second Edition Shutdown Supplementq240075 - USB Devices May Not Work in Windows 98 Second Editionq245682 - Hotfix for IDE Controller Is Disabled in Device Manager bugq253697 - Hotfix for USB Enumeration Problems on Fast Computersq260067 - Mapped Drives Updateq273017 - IDE Hard Drive Cache Package for Windows 98seq274175 - Hotfix for bug with More Than Eight Folder Levels on CD-ROMq276602 - Hotfix for Device Manager Reports Code 10 for Device Bugq281533 - Hotfix for USB Driver May Cause Error During Docking Bugq306453 - Hotfix for bug in Usbhub.sys with USB Devicesq310695 - Hotfix for DVD Player Program Cannot Access Data bugq318307 - Update for VMOUSE.VXDq313829 - Hotfix for Unchecked Buffer in Windows Shell Vulnerabilitykb816093 - Hotfix for Vulnerability in Microsoft Virtual Machinekb816362 - Hotfix for Bug in Mshta.exe With Multiple Modal Dialog Boxeskb824220 - Hotfix for Images Not Appearing in Web Pages in Internet Explorerkb830849 - Hotfix for 'Automatic Detect Settings' Errors in Internet Explorerkb885258 - Hotfix for Scaled images not sized correctly in Internet Explorerkb886677 - Unofficial Hotfix for DBCS Corruption in MLANG.DLLkb893627 - Hotfix for Bug with Group Policies Not Applied in Internet Explorerkb896156 - Hotfix for bug when removing an HTML element from a Web pagekb891781 - Hotfix for DHTML ActiveX Control Vulnerabilitykb905495 - Hotfix for Vulnerability in the Windows FTP Clientkb918439 - Hotfix for Vulnerability in ART Image Renderingkb938464 - Hotfix for Vulnerability in Vector Markup Languagekb951066 - Unofficial Cumulative Update for Outlook Express 6 sp1kb956390 - Unofficial Cumulative Update for Internet Explorer 6 sp1q236926 - Hotfix for TCP/IP May Retransmit Packets Prematurely bugq239696 - Hotfix for bug with High Disk Activity or Low Memoryq241052 - Hotfix for bug with Password Synchronizationq245065 - Hotfix for bug with Automatic Repeat and USB Keyboardsq249146 - Hotfix for bug in PlaySound API with USB devices presentq249635 - Hotfix for Size Report bug in USB Driverq250514 - Hotfix for bug with Print Jobs on the Same Printerq250876 - Hotfix for Print Queues May Appear Offline bugq253711 - Hotfix for ACPI Computer May Not Shut Down Properly Bugq254660 - Fourth and Fifth Mouse Buttons Not Recognized by Windowsq257360 - Hotfix for ACPI Compliant Computer May Hang bugq257821 - Hotfix for Windows Sockets Function Adds 500ms Time-Out Bugq258680 - Hotfix for Bug in Screen Saver Activation While Suspendedq272621 - Hotfix for bug in Reported Size in Virtual Memory Tabq274370 - Hotfix for Blue Screen Of Death Using Digital CD Audioq275873 - Hotfix for Sleep and Power Buttons Are the Same bugq277628 - Hotfix for Last Access and Creation Time Access Denied bugq278033 - Fix for Bug in MS Video For Windows Apps with USB Digital Camerasq283032 - Windows 98 Cannot List Users in Windows 2000-Based Domainq288550 - Hotfix for Bug in Plug and Play Printer May Not Resumeq305037 - Hotfix for Low Battery Alarm May Not Work Bugq307004 - Hotfix for Group Policy Bug in Groups with Long Namesq308349 - Hotfix for Bug when Turning Off Computer with USB Modem Presentq309081 - Hotfix for Infrared Devices Data Features bugq311561 - Hotfix for bug in MS-DOS Processing Hard Disk Errorsq319571 - Hotfix for bug in Detection of Non-US Enhanced Keyboardsq323708 - Hotfix for Computer Hangs Bug During Infrared CommunicationBy description, many of them are fairly useful. I'm not sure if there's anything in uSP that takes care of the things they are meant to fix though.I like uSP3 and the work you have put in it, if I did not I'd not be posting here. If I was some a person with a bit of temperament I would have been offended by the reply. It is not very nice to jump to conclusions like that (but that's ot subject). Edited April 21, 2012 by TmEE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PROBLEMCHYLD Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 The post wasn't directed at you personally. It was directed at anyone who don't follow instructions. It good to hear we are on the same page and you understood where I was coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PROBLEMCHYLD Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 (edited) These 2 updates are included, they install with IE Core Fileskb905495 - Hotfix for Vulnerability in the Windows FTP Client kb886677 - Unofficial Hotfix for DBCS Corruption in MLANG.DLLI will add MSIEFTP.DLL 5.50.4956.500 to main updates since it doesn't require IE at all.All the updates besides Internet Explorer/Outlook Express updates are included. They only install if they are present on the system. Some files don't need to be on the system if you have no purpose for them.They are all included in SP3.CAB. Edited April 21, 2012 by PROBLEMCHYLD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aurgathor Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 >1) why did "command prompt here" get removed?> It was more of an tweak than enhancement.Methinks it's still very nice to have, and it's much easier to not check it during install if someone doesn't want it than find out how to add it separately. (which I may need to do now) > 2) how can I view a folder as webpage? As of B4, there used to be an option to set that , but it's no more...> Not in this package.>> 3) what happened with the "Quick launch" toolbar? Not able to find it or enable it...> This service pack has nothing to do with anything Quick launch related.Actually, it does. It happened because I accidentally checked "Win95 shell swap" I guess I shouldn't be installing SW in the wee hours.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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