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Hello PROBLEMCHYLD, could you please explain why you prefer Oppcom over 98lite.

Thanks

It seems that users prefer to use Oppcom over 98lite. It was highly recommended over 98lite. I could actually use them both to test. Another thing 98 lite isn't free and Oppcom is.
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Hello, the other day I installed Windows ME using 98lite. I chose the chubby option in 98lite keeping the ME shell. My reason for using 98lite over Oppcom is the ability to remove options pre-installation which creates a smaller neater registry. Using the custom installation setting in Windows, I removed a lot of stuff including pchealth, media players, webm, IE, directx, agent, script, update, etc...

After installation finished I added back directx 9.0c but chose not to install internet explorer. I then proceeded to Win ME SP3 beta2. SP3 did not like this configuration. MAIN UPDATE acted like it installed properly but I found out later that many of the files did not update. Other options seem to have installed fine. USBSTACK.EXE was not in the windows/system directory. I searched through the service pack for usb support but could not find anything.

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Hello, the other day I installed Windows ME using 98lite. I chose the chubby option in 98lite keeping the ME shell. My reason for using 98lite over Oppcom is the ability to remove options pre-installation which creates a smaller neater registry. Using the custom installation setting in Windows, I removed a lot of stuff including pchealth, media players, webm, IE, directx, agent, script, update, etc...

After installation finished I added back directx 9.0c but chose not to install internet explorer. I then proceeded to Win ME SP3 beta2. SP3 did not like this configuration. MAIN UPDATE did install properly. Many of the files did not update. Other options seem to have installed fine. USBSTACK.EXE was not in the windows/system directory. I searched through the service pack for usb support but could not find anything.

Since the users who don't use the SP was bitching about Win98 SP3.x, I decided not to continue with it. I didn't or don't want to go through it all over again with windows me. I was on the verge of getting banned and a good friend of mine, asked me to fallback. I still read a lot on the forum, but as far as being thoroughly active, I have taken my business elsewhere. You can thank the non-SP users for their crying :hello:
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Since the users who don't use the SP was bitching about Win98 SP3.x, I decided not to continue with it. I didn't or don't want to go through it all over again with windows me. I was on the verge of getting banned and a good friend of mine, asked me to fallback. I still read a lot on the forum, but as far as being thoroughly active, I have taken my business elsewhere. You can thank the non-SP users for their crying :hello:

I don't think you can blame the non-SP users. I don't use the SP, but I never said it was WRONG, just not my cup of tea. I only pointed out a few possible risks with your approach and some suggestions to make your users happier. The other non-SP users said very little as they had no reason to care. Most of the arguments you got into had to do with your implementation. These came from users or potential users of your SP.

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I don't think you can blame the non-SP users. I don't use the SP, but I never said it was WRONG, just not my cup of tea. I only pointed out a few possible risks with your approach and some suggestions to make your users happier. The other non-SP users said very little as they had no reason to care. Most of the arguments you got into had to do with your implementation. These came from users or potential users of your SP.

I wasn't referring to you or others like you. You have tested the SP in the past years and have given constructive feedback.

You have not b***h about what was added and what was removed, what should be added and what should be deleted. You and many others don't complain. I have some of your freeware patches included, and even though you don't use it, you have help me fix many bugs. Thats a hell of a contribution :thumbup:thumbup:thumbup

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Since the users who don't use the SP was bitching about Win98 SP3.x, I decided not to continue with it. I didn't or don't want to go through it all over again with windows me. I was on the verge of getting banned and a good friend of mine, asked me to fallback. I still read a lot on the forum, but as far as being thoroughly active, I have taken my business elsewhere. You can thank the non-SP users for their crying :hello:

This is very bad news for the 98 community. As keeper of the service packs your role here is large. Active members on a board like this make up only a small portion of the actual viewership and I assure you that this silent majority is all positive. I hope someone will come in and take over for the great work you have done but I doubt it. wherever you take your business, you will find all the same stereo types and nothing will change until you change. Peace

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well, that was interesting. It bothers me Windows Millennium is always neglected. At least the efforts here did something about it.

I think its worthy to mention that what doesn't work in a virtual machine may work in a real machine. I always test in both not just one.

Theres a windows 98se iso running around with an aussie timezone pre configured with it (we know who) loading it on virtualbox doesn't work but on a real machine its he best thing since windows 98SE itself.

Hypervisors were not tuned for windows 9x. They are a pain in the a**. Only vanilla installations work reliably and without tweaks.

I get vmware with its poultry gpu ram support (and sound issues) or virtualbox with its sound issues. (for me anyway)

So I would recommend those making service packs test on real machines and virtual machines to define 2 branches for users to use.

Differences between virtual pc 2004, 2007 virtualbox, vmware, qemu they all have their own issues,

differences between AMD and Intel lead me to believe windows 9x is completely intel optimised thus can cause hypervisor problems with AMD cpu powered systems.

There needs to be a hypervisor designed to cope and utilise post production tweaks and enhancements to windows 9x taking into account the problems of current offerings. It would be so good it'd be the end of bitches.

 

 

 

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https://web.archive.org/web/20210506152359/https://www.mdgx.com/spx/MESP1.EXE

https://web.archive.org/web/20210506070920/http://www.mdgx.com/spx/MESP2_BUGGY!.EXE


http://www.techtalk.cc/viewtopic.php?f=1047&t=121

 

Service Pack of member hjsuffolk14@gmail.com:

https://retrosystemsrevival.blogspot.com/2019/05/windows-me-service-pack-102.html   /   https://web.archive.org/web/20190121094040/https://hjtsoft.blogspot.com/2017/10/unofficial-windows-millenium-edition.html    Unfortunately, the associated topic is lost here on msfn.

I searched again on the WaybackMachine, but I found only little:  https://web.archive.org/web/20170824231726/http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/176898-windows-me-service-pack/           https://web.archive.org/web/20170825030646/http://hjtech14.blogspot.fr/2017/07/introducing-windows-me-service-pack-3.html  Apparently more has not been archived.

hjsuffolk14@gmail.com renamed his topic twice Windows ME Service Pack => Windows ME Cumulative Update => Windows 9X Update Archive. The server crash was about more than two years ago.

 

There are more packs out there.

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