About CD/CD-R/DVD drives icons...

[msxyz]

I recently reformatted and installed a "lite" version of Windows XP+Sp2 and I noticed that my DVD-RAM drive is now listed as a generic "CD-ROM" in the "My Computer" explorer window.

Nero and other burning programs are still working normally, though.

Before anyone asks, yes I removed the Imapi feature, but so I did the last time I used nLite (it was a much earlier beta) and the icon was correct.

I did some more experiments (swapping drives, adding / removing features with nLite) and I discovered that this happens only with Sp2 insatalled. If I use a clean WinXP copy, my drive is correctly listed as a DVD-RAM with the proper icon in the explorer window.

As I said this is purely a cosmetic "bug", nothing serious yet an odd behaviour.

[jmbattle]

I forget the exact name of the service in question that is responsible for this - Shell Hardware Detection, or something...), however it is also tied in with Themes and Fast User Switching.

I hope this proves useful.

Cheers,

James

[msxyz]

Thanks, I did remove the secondary logon - multiple users feature but not anything shell related..

It's odd that with the same list of removed components but without using the SP, the drive is correctly identified.

[msxyz]

PPS: I just checked again and the component that controls the naming of the CD ROM is listed as "Shell services" under Services.

I DIDN'T remove it. Yet with SP2 I lost the CDROM detection

Edited July 22, 2005 by msxyz

[minigun]

PPS: I just checked again and the component that controls the naming of the CD ROM is listed as "Shell services" under Services.

I DIDN'T remove it. Yet with SP2 I lost the CDROM detection

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

yep i have this problem... and iv said it before... along time ago

[nuhi]

Then you used some option which causes that...like VMWare when installing it asks you to turn that off because it has issues.

It's some tweak you use or disabled service, service you can easily check, if it's working then it's a tweak...not in nlite.

[jmbattle]

However, if I remember correctly, you do not actually lose any functionality (e.g. your DVD burner will still burn DVDs...), so I wouldn't worry too much.

Cheers,

James

[msxyz]

Today I made another test. I prepared to "nLighted" WinXP installations. One was WinXP+Sp1a, the other WinXP+Sp2

I triple checked every step so that I removed exactly the same components from both installations and used the same tweaks.

Result?

The WinXP+Sp1a installation identifies my drive correctly and for every CD-ROM inserted the icon is correctly updated, the WinXP+Sp2 still has the problem.

Conclusion: SP2 messes with something that affects the shell services. The problem is not nLite (disabling autorun under tweaks does not affect the icon as I first suspected), nor me making some dumb moves. >

Then you used some option which causes that...like VMWare when installing it asks you to turn that off because it has issues.

It's some tweak you use or disabled service, service you can easily check, if it's working then it's a tweak...not in nlite.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Edited July 23, 2005 by msxyz

[jmbattle]

Well, several services and their dependencies were rejigged a little in SP2, so this isn't terribly surprising.

James

[dirtwarrior]

Ive noticed this but as james says it is cosmetic I still have full functionality to burn and play dvds

[nuhi]

Nothing in nlite settings or removals could disable Shell Services on purpose...so msxyz, is your Shell HW Detection service started or not ?

Are you sure that on full windows it's ok ?

And if you are then attach your preset, I'll try it once.

[msxyz]

This is the preset I used on both installations. I triple checked that both installations had the same components removed. With sp1a it works, with Sp2 not.

[Main]
Env = 1.0 beta 5 - 1.1.4322.573.Microsoft Windows NT 5.1.2600.0
Target = Windows XP Professional Sp1 - build 1106 - English (United States)

[Tasks]
Remove Components
Tweaks
Create a Bootable ISO

[Components]
;# Applications #
Accessibility Options
Briefcase
ClipBook Viewer
Games
Internet Games
NT Backup
Paint
Pinball
Screensavers
;# Drivers #
Asynchronous Transfer Mode (ATM)
Cameras and Camcorders
IBM Thinkpad
InfraRed
ISDN
Modems
MultiFunctional
Portable Audio
Printers
Scanners
SCSI/RAID
Smartcards
Sony Jog Dial
Tape drives
Toshiba DVD decoder card
Wireless Ethernet (WLAN)
;# Hardware Support #
Brother Devices
Multi-port serial adapters
;# Languages #
;Arabic
Arabic (Algeria)
Arabic (Bahrain)
Arabic (Egypt)
Arabic (Iraq)
Arabic (Jordan)
Arabic (Kuwait)
Arabic (Lebanon)
Arabic (Libya)
Arabic (Morocco)
Arabic (Oman)
Arabic (Qatar)
Arabic (Saudi Arabia)
Arabic (Syria)
Arabic (Tunisia)
Arabic (U.A.E.)
Arabic (Yemen)
Divehi (Maldives)
Syriac (Syria)
Urdu
;Armenian
Armenian
;Baltic
Estonian
Latvian
Lithuanian
;Central Europe
Albanian
Croatian
Czech
Hungarian
Polish
Romanian
Serbian (Latin)
Slovak
Slovenian
;Cyrillic
Azeri (Cyrillic)
Belarusian
Bulgarian
FYRO Macedonian
Kazakh
Kyrgyz (Kyrgyzstan)
Mongolian (Mongolia)
Russian
Serbian (Cyrillic)
Tatar
Ukrainian
Uzbek (Cyrillic)
;Georgian
Georgian
;Greek
Greek
;Hebrew
Hebrew
;Indic
Gujarati (India)
Hindi
Kannada (India)
Konkani
Marathi
Punjabi (India)
Sanskrit
Tamil
Telugu (India)
;Japanese
Japanese
;Korean
Korean
;Simplified Chinese
Chinese (PRC)
Chinese (Singapore)
;Thai
Farsi
Thai
;Traditional Chinese
Chinese (Hong Kong S.A.R.)
Chinese (Macau S.A.R.)
Chinese (Taiwan)
;Turkic
Azeri (Latin)
Turkish
Uzbek (Latin)
;Vietnamese
Vietnamese
;Western Europe and United States
;# Multimedia #
AOL ART Image Format Support
DirectX Diagnostic Tool
Images and Backgrounds
Media Center
Mouse Cursors
Music Samples
Old CDPlayer and Sound Recorder
Speech Support
Tablet PC
;# Network #
Active Directory service
Client for Netware Networks
Communication tools
FrontPage Extensions
Internet Explorer
Internet Information Services (IIS)
MSN Explorer
Netmeeting
NetShell Cmd-Tool
Outlook Express
Synchronization Manager
TAPI Application Support
Vector Graphics Rendering (VML)
Web Folders
Windows Messenger
;# Operating System Options #
Administrative Templates
Administrator VB scripts
Color Schemes
Desktop Cleanup Wizard
Disk and Profile Quota
Document Templates
File and Settings Wizard
Framework
Manual Install and Upgrade
MS Agent
Out of Box Experience (OOBE)
Private Character Editor
Search Assistant
Service Pack Messages
Task Scheduler
Tour
Web View
;# Services #
Alerter
Application Layer Gateway
Autoupdate
Background Intelligent Transfer
Distributed Link Tracking Client
Distributed Transaction Coordinator (DTC)
Error Reporting
Fax Services
Imapi
Indexing Service
IPSEC Policy Agent
Messenger
Performance Logs and Alerts
QoS RSVP
Quality of Service (QoS)
Remote Registry
Secondary Logon
Telnet Server
Terminal Services
Uninterruptible Power Supply
Volume Shadow Copy
WebClient
Windows Time
;# Directories #
support
valueadd
;# Compatibility #
Compat1
Compat2

[KeepFiles]
msconfig.exe

[RemoveFiles]
blastcln.exe
clock.avi

[Options]
DisableFreereq
DisableMinMem
ProfilesDir = "%SystemDrive%\Documents and Settings"
KeepCp
;#ISO maker#
isovol = WinLite
isoatt = -allow-multidot -relaxed-filenames -allow-leading-dots -N -l -d -D -joliet-long -duplicates-once -no-emul-boot -b boot.bin -hide boot.bin -hide boot.catalog

[Patches]
TcpIp = 10
UsbPoll = 125

[Services]
Themes,2
AppMgmt,3
AudioSrv,2
CryptSvc,2
EventLog,2
HidServ,4
NDProxy,3
NetDDE,4
NetDDEdsdm,4
Netman,3
PlugPlay,2
ProtectedStorage,2
SamSs,2
SENS,4
TapiSrv,3
Wmi,3
LanmanWorkstation,2
RasAuto,3
RasMan,3
RemoteAccess,4
IpFilterDriver,3
IpInIp,3
IpNat,3
NwlnkFlt,3
NwlnkFwd,3
SharedAccess,3
DHCP,2
DNSCACHE,2
NLA,3
LMHosts,2
Browser,2
NetLogon,3
RpcLocator,3
NtLmSsp,3
LanmanServer,2
Srv,3

[Tweaks]
;# Boot & Shutdown #
Disable Prefetch-Cache
Do not Parse Autoexec.bat
;# Desktop,Taskbar & Startmenu #
Remove Internet Explorer icon
Remove My Documents icon
Remove My Network Places icon
;# Explorer #
Disable Autorun
Disable Prefix: Shortcut to
Recycle Bin: delete files directly
Remove Send To on context menu
Show Drive Letters in front of Drive Names
Show extensions of known file-types
;# File Open/Save Dialog #
Disable File MRU-List
;# My Computer #
Remove Shared Documents
;# Network #
Disable automatic search for network folders and printers
Disable restoring mapped network drives on logon
Disable Simple File Sharing
;# Privacy #
Clear most recently opened documents list on logoff
Disable Logging of executed programs
Disable User Process Tracking
Remove Alexa Spyware
;# Speed #
Classic Control Panel
Disable Tracking of Broken Shortcut Links
Do not cache thumbnails
;# Start Menu #
Disable popup on first boot
Remove Logoff User
Remove My Documents
Remove My Music
Remove My Pictures
Remove Search the Internet from Search
Remove Set Program Access and Defaults
Remove Username
Remove Windows Catalog from Start Menu
;# Taskbar #
Disable Hide inactive icons
Disable Language-Bar
;# Visual Effects #
Disable: Show windows contents while dragging
Disable: Use a background image for each folder type
;# Windows Media Player #
Disable auto-add music to library
Disable automatic codec download
Disable MRU
Disable silent acqusition
Disable starting with Media Guide
Disable WMP auto-update
No visualization
Remove all context menu entries

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[Hotfixes]

[snowden]

I hope this can be fixed!

I would like to mention the following though:

I usually port my nlite preset ini files from one version of nlite to another, and on double-checking, i noticed that the 'Shell Hardware Detection' service was missing in the services section of nlite (the last step for where you set their modes). So I said 'Hmmm...' and asked myself what could I have removed that made this disappear? I then reset nlite presets to 'Safe' and when I then checked the services section Shell HD was there.

Thinking I had solved the problem, I then made a nlited Windows Server 2003 Datacenter SP2, only to find I had the same problem as before (and as everyone above is having).

The weird thing is, SHD is there in windows, but it won't start; it says something failed to start it.

Anyway, I hope this issue is resolved soon, because some weird stuff is happening with the cd/dvd icons and autoplay.