Integration of NVIDIA's nForce RAID and AHCI drivers

[RickSteele]

Fernando 1

"So you succeeded finally?

How did you do it (F6 or nLite)? Which nForce SataRaid driver version did you install?"

Either way on either mobo using 6.65, 6.70 on the Premium and 6.82 on the A8N32..., with or without F6, or nlite. The driver concern only affects the ATAPI drives for me and their recognition/functionality during and immediately after setup.

Also, I owe you an apology. I've just now completed a fresh install on the A8N32-SLI Deluxe modifying the sataraid folder in the 6.82 driver set as you outline in your guide, nliting winXP pro using these modified drivers and voila; here I am typing this with the NVIDIA ATAPI sw drivers installed. All went perfectly. The nvide.nvu must also be copied-setup looks for it-popup as before..........

I do not know what I did wrong before. I also had an issue with creating bootable DVD's. nuhi is working with me on this one in another thread so........I'm just wondering if this is gone too.

The F6 method on this mobo I found very unstable for the ATAPI only; ie: the DVD-RW never seemed to operate smoothly as before on the Premium mobo. Possibly the MS drivers do not play well with nforce and the 6.82 contain no NVIDIA sw drivers even though manual installation in safe mode asks you if you wish to install....The MS ones remain on reboot.

Thanks for your interest and patience; sorry again for my error.

One last thing that might be of interest: no more "ReinstallBackups" sans quotes in system32 with this install; and upon entering Safe Mode to manually install the 6.82 on this A8N32-SLI Deluxe using the same folder I pointed nlite 1.0rc5 to during driver integration for my ISO, the NVIDIA sw drivers installed this time-I copied the entire "Legacy" folder to the 6.82 from the 6.70 and also copied the requesit files from there to the 6.82 sataraid folder; so go figure!

Edited January 18, 2006 by RickSteele

[Fernando 1]

Also, I owe you an apology. I've just now completed a fresh install on the A8N32-SLI Deluxe modifying the sataraid folder in the 6.82 driver set as you outline in your guide, nliting winXP pro using these modified drivers and voila; here I am typing this with the NVIDIA ATAPI sw drivers installed. All went perfectly. The nvide.nvu must also be copied-setup looks for it-popup as before..........

Hello RickSteele,

I have to thank you

a ) for the correction of your earlier comment about my guide concerning the use of the 6.82 driver package on SLI X16 systems and

b ) for your notice, that the Windows setup asks for the NVIDE.NVU file, if you integrate the SATARAID driver subfolder (As a result of your post I have clarified this point within my guide).

CU

Fernando

[-.-PhanTom-.-]

@ all users with a SLI X16 mainboard:

Please report about your experience with the 6.82 driver package.

CU

Fernando

Just installing VMWare again ..gonna test it there first...then prob a full fresh install...this first NLited install on new system seems to have some quirks I can't really figure out...sucvh as Windows Installer service not starting as it should (even when it's set to automatic)

[RickSteele]

PhanTom

Just installing VMWare again ..gonna test it there first...then prob a full fresh install...this first NLited install on new system seems to have some quirks I can't really figure out...sucvh as Windows Installer service not starting as it should (even when it's set to automatic)

Firstly when nliting if you are slipsreaming sp2 into a previous winXP build, complete this first by itself and exit nlite; then relaunch nlite and slipstream all of the hotfixes/updates; exit nlite again and defrag/reboot. At this point slipstream WMP10 if you use it afterwhich launch nlite and slipstream all WMP10 updates; defrag and other than updating this folder with the new monthly hotfixes/updates, do nothing else with it and save it as "winXP....original" or whatever name you wish-sans quotes and backup to CD-RW/DVD-RW. Now you have an unmodified base os completely up to date. Create another folder and name it winXP... or whatever, copy all of the "...original" folder to here and nlite customizations in this one. Now, if an nlited custom install fails you at least have a fully updated os to install-albeit using F6.

If you do not slipstream the sp alone I have found that the files-especially in gp-do not show as updated-no end to the grief-your concern was among my experiences.

Also, follow fernando's driver integration guide using 6.82 and some files/one folder from 6.70. My ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe is running beautifully on a 4kb stripe...and fast.

Edited January 18, 2006 by RickSteele

[deliriou5?]

I just spent 2 hours reading as much of this as i can, and i have to say im thoroughly confused.

Im trying to integrate the 6.70 sata raid drivers into an xp install.

I follow the setup in the first post, but after reading further it seems this is the incorrect way to do it, or that it hasnt been update in sometime?

Another question, what is 'text mode' , nlite rc5 wont let me insert the whole sataraid folder(which is how i thought you were to do it according to the guide.)

This is the most frustrating driver install i have ever had, drivers should just work, especially from corp. like nvidia. sorry bout the rant.

[nite0859]

This method works! Thanks!

Using Windows XP with SP2 - Corp. Edition.

Procedure:

1. I copied the contents of the entire CD to a directory named G:\XPCD .

2. I used NLite to remove the IDE drivers from G:\XPCD .

3. I integrated BTS's driverpacks, as well as the user created TV packs and my own packs, included MassStorage, using Method 1 to G:\XPCD .

4. Using Notepad, I edited TXTSETUP.SIF & DOSNET.INF . I deleted all references to 'NVRAID' and 'NVATABUS' that BTS's driverpacks had inserted. This also included deleting the HWID (Hard Ware IDs) references.

5. Using the instructions outlined on the first post of this thread, I copied filed FROM the 'Legacy' folder to the 'Sata' folder. In addition, I copied the contents of the 'SmBus' folder to the 'Sata' folder. Version number : v6.70 .

6. Using NLite, I 'added' drivers. All I did was point NLite to the 'Sata' folder that contained the files from both the 'Legacy' and the 'SmBus' folders.

6a. If you re-check the DOSNET.INF & TXTSETUP.INF files with Notepad, then you'll see how and what NLite interjects in order to make the nForce 4 drivers work. (Example, you'll see : d1,nvraid.sys ....as well as... d9,nvraid.sys and what not ...)

7. After all of this, I added RyanVM's updatepack as well as several other updatepacks using RyanVm's integrator. (I'm not sure if this was in the right order, but it does in fact work.)

Thanks again. I can now boot my father in law's NF4 computer with only this CD.

[Fernando 1]

Im trying to integrate the 6.70 sata raid drivers into an xp install.

I follow the setup in the first post, but after reading further it seems this is the incorrect way to do it, or that it hasnt been update in sometime?

The first post is up-to-date.

I did not describe a correct and a wrong way, but 2 different ways to integrate the nForce SataRaid drivers.

If you have an nForce4 mainboard (with a Raid BIOS version 4.84 or higher) and if you want to use the easiest method, just integrate the IDE\WinXP\LEGACY subfolder as textmode driver (no preparations at all necessary!).

Another question, what is 'text mode' , nlite rc5 wont let me insert the whole sataraid folder(which is how i thought you were to do it according to the guide.)

The first part of the Windows installation is called "TEXTMODE" (like DOS, that means without any GUI). Mass storage (= "textmode") drivers, which are not present within the OS CD, have to be loaded within this TEXTMODE part of the installation (i.e. by F6/floppy). Otherwise Setup will not detect the unknown mass storage devices (in this case: your RAID array).

Remark: If you are integrating a driver by using nLite, you should not "insert" a folder, but just point to the content of a driver folder.

This is the most frustrating driver install i have ever had, drivers should just work, especially from corp. like nvidia. sorry bout the rant.

I totally agree with you. Exactly this is the reason why I have written this guide (to make it as easy as possible for you!).

CU

Fernando

[-.-PhanTom-.-]

Ok, did a fresh install again using the X16 method....seemed to work..kinda..

However, Silicon drivers were not installed, and the 3 hdds I have on the non-sillicon SATA controller appear with a "Safely remove hardware" icon in the taskbar....why the hell is that?and how do I get rid of them there...?

Hmm and just see that the "disk manager" from Computer Management in Administrative tools is totally gone!!!???...WTF...

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Edited January 19, 2006 by -.-PhanTom-.-

[Emren]

Hi board (and especially Fernando!)

I am about to get my feet wet with nLite! I am trying to install Win XP on a RAID 1 setup. My Win XP disk was included when I bought the PC, and comes pre-loaded with SP1 and some other OEM stuff. I have a ASUS K8N-E Deluxe MB, which is equipped with a nForce 3 250 Gb chipset. This MB actually has two different SATA controllers, both of which are capable of running RAIDs. The chipset itself has two SATA connectors, while the Silicon Image 3114 controller has an additional four connectors - so there's six connectors total directly on the MB.

1) Which controller should I use?

2) If I am to use the nForce controller, which driver should I use? I have been reading forums left and right about unified driver sets at nforcers.com and guru3d.com, but I am none the wiser.

3) Regardless of which controller/driver is recommended to me, is the guide in the top post still relevant to me?

[Fernando 1]

the 3 hdds I have on the non-sillicon SATA controller appear with a "Safely remove hardware" icon in the taskbar....why the hell is that

That is totally normal! All devices with hot-plugging capacity are shown in systray as "safely removable hardware".

Look here: http://www.planetamd64.com/index.php?showtopic=14090

1) Which controller should I use?

2) If I am to use the nForce controller, which driver should I use? I have been reading forums left and right about unified driver sets at nforcers.com and guru3d.com, but I am none the wiser.

3) Regardless of which controller/driver is recommended to me, is the guide in the top post still relevant to me?

My answers:

1. The nForce Raid controllers will have the better performance than the Silicon Image ones.

2. You can take the nForce SataRaid drivers off the 6.70 package (see my first post), but you have to take the other nForce drivers (GART, SMBus etc.) from another driver package. Although I didn't try it yet, you should also be able to take all drivers - inclusive the nForce SataRaid ones - off the new 8.22 Remix driver package. Important is, that you integrate all needed drivers and files (look into the driver package structure and compare it with my guide). If you don't have an actual nVRaid BIOS (v. 4.84 or higher), you should take the SataRaid drivers off the package 6.53.

3. Yes!

CU

Fernando

[-.-PhanTom-.-]

the 3 hdds I have on the non-sillicon SATA controller appear with a "Safely remove hardware" icon in the taskbar....why the hell is that

That is totally normal! All devices with hot-plugging capacity are shown in systray as "safely removable hardware".

Look here: http://www.planetamd64.com/index.php?showtopic=14090

Fernando

Hmm just find it strange that they didn't do this the first time I installed XP on this new machine...can't really see what I did differently, other than I remembered to copy the NVCOI.DLL (from the SATA_IDE subfolder) this time, which apparently is the cause of this behaviour......?

Any ide why my Silicon drivers isn't installed properly during setup?

[Lemonzest]

Worked great here on my Lanparty NF3 UT 250Gb (nForce3 raidbios 4.52) with driver version 6.22 (from 6.82 pack) and Nlite 1.0 RC5

[Fernando 1]

Any ide why my Silicon drivers isn't installed properly during setup?

No, if you integrated them correctly.

[-.-PhanTom-.-]

Any ide why my Silicon drivers isn't installed properly during setup?

No, if you integrated them correctly.

Hmmm just added them as PNP driver.... but maybe there has to be a hdd attached to the controller for XP to iniciate the install of this controller?

[Fernando 1]

Hmmm just added them as PNP driver.... but maybe there has to be a hdd attached to the controller for XP to iniciate the install of this controller?

Is it possible, that you did not enable the Sil Controller within BIOS (because you don't use them actually)? In this case it is clear, that the driver has not been installed.

CU

Fernando