98SE2ME = Killer Replacements: ME -> 98 SE

[Hu$tle]

Is SHELL32.DLL 5.50.4134.120 added to 98SE2ME because i was reading

and it said SHELL32.DLL 5.50.4134.100 was installed from the cd.

I think you missed my point about option 4 the boot logos

this is what i was saying

option 4 really has no purpose only because option 1 will install option 4 the boot logos

now think about for a second who is gonna install only option 4?

other than that i appreciate your work with the utmost thanks again.

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

1.How many files exactly do 98SE2ME install?

I counted over 800 files including option 3

[AbyssHunted]

Just a quick question:

I've allready installed the latest 98SE2ME (July 18th), but every time I boot my machine, during the processing of AUTOEXEC.BAT, I get messages saying something like this:

ATTRIB firstfilename

1 file(s) copied

0 file(s) copied

ATTRIB secondfilename

1 file(s) copied

0 file(s) copied

etc...

Is this supposed to happen every time I boot?

[BPoller]

Did anyone tranlated 98SE2ME into german already. Only found some postings from somebody who wanted to try. I am using Win98SE again, since i got some Thin Clients which i want to make Win98 CF-Card boot into RAM-Disk ready. Have used Win2k the last 5 years, but found Win98 on friends PCs to fix often. And now i am interested to make a small up2date Win98SE like so many did before.

I own legal german licences of Win95 original, Win98SE, WinME (and Win2k).

- The unoffical ServicePack v2.1d is available in german

- IE6 & OE Updates are available in german

- USB 1.1 & 2.0 UpdatePacks (NUSB?) are available in german

- The Revolution Pack 7 is available in german (following the readme)

- KernelEX does not need special Language as far as i remember

If there is no offically posted german version, i would like to try it myself, also i dont want to invent the wheel twice (as we say in Germany).

And if there are other Tweak-Packs which are needed to translate, i would be lucky, if i could help.

Beeing my first posting here, i also want to say hello and wish to join your group of Win98SE-is-still-alive fans.

[MDGx]

Is SHELL32.DLL 5.50.4134.120 added to 98SE2ME because i was reading

and it said SHELL32.DLL 5.50.4134.100 was installed from the cd.

I think you missed my point about option 4 the boot logos

this is what i was saying

option 4 really has no purpose only because option 1 will install option 4 the boot logos

now think about for a second who is gonna install only option 4?

other than that i appreciate your work with the utmost thanks again.

1. SHELL32.DLL 5.50.4134.120 was added to 98SE2ME back in December 2006 [as stated in UPDATES.TXT, the 12-13-2006 update]:

http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/updates.php

12-13-2006

* Option 3: added newer SHELL32.DLL 5.50.4134.120 [%windir%\SYSTEM] from WinME

hotfix:

http://www.mdgx.com/web.htm#MEU

Also, READ1ST.TXT states under the "98SE2ME.PIF COMPLETE GUIDE" section, the "* Option 3:" sub-section:

http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/read1st.php

- Patched WinME Shell 32-bit Control = SHELL32.DLL 5.50.4134.120:

http://www.msfn.org/board/?showtopic=84451

available at:

http://www.mdgx.com/web.htm#MEU

2. Actually some people here, at MSFN, told me a while back, they would like to see a separate option for installing the 98SE2ME logos, so I haven't removed it.

HTH

[MDGx]

Just a quick question:

I've allready installed the latest 98SE2ME (July 18th), but every time I boot my machine, during the processing of AUTOEXEC.BAT, I get messages saying something like this:

ATTRIB firstfilename

1 file(s) copied

0 file(s) copied

ATTRIB secondfilename

1 file(s) copied

0 file(s) copied

etc...

Is this supposed to happen every time I boot?

I have no idea why this happens on your computer, never happened on anybody else's as far as I'm aware.

Could you please post here the autoexec.bat code and the exact messages [file names, if any] you see upon every boot?

If I could see it, maybe I can try to fix it.

Thanks in advance.

[MDGx]

Did anyone tranlated 98SE2ME into german already...

If there is no offically posted german version, i would like to try it myself...

Beeing my first posting here, i also want to say hello and wish to join your group of Win98SE-is-still-alive fans.

Welcome to MSFN forums BPoller, and I hope you find something useful here.

To my knowledge, nobody so far translated 98SE2ME into German.

If you have the time, please do.

All you need is here, in this small ZIP:

http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/INNOFILE.ZIP

Unzip, and then read INNOFILE.TXT.

In case you need to view 98SE2ME ReadMe 1st:

http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/read1st.php

If you wish to translate/update/modify/recompile 98SE2ME HTML Help file (98SE2ME.CHM), you need:

- MS HTML Help SDK 1.4 (free):

http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#HHS

- 98SE2ME.CHM HTML source files [258 KB, ZIPped]:

http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/982MECHM.ZIP

Also, if you'd like to translate the main Inno Setup BMP logo, here are the fonts you may want to use [small ZIP]:

http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/TREKFONT.ZIP

Greatly appreciate your time and concern.

Best wishes.

[BPoller]

Hi,

one more question (also it might be unnecessary):

Is there a freeware dos tool, with which i can compare the version number of 2 same-named Microsoft files?

For example:

If already some patches are installed (e.g. with DirectX 9.0c), some of the ME files would be out of date.

It would be great, if there is a dos tool (with return code) which compares 2 files, saying which version is newer. I dont believe, just watching the date code is enough.

Thanks,

Bjoern

[MDGx]

If by DOS tools you meant tools you can use from within a DOS box inside Windows [not native MS-DOS outside Windows], this is what you need [free GPL]:

http://lbrisar.htmlplanet.com/e_cmd32.html#getver

I use GETVER.EXE in 98SE2ME, just use it from the C:\9!M directory after you have installed 98SE2ME.EXE [do not need to install any options, press N at the first screen during install]:

http://www.mdgx.com/4

HTH

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

Can you add Winpop and all its files?

[bristols]

I have removed GDI*.* 4.90.3003 from 98SE2ME and reverted back to GDI*.* 4.90.3002 because of this problem [from UPDATES.TXT, the 8-22-2006 update]:

* Options 1 + 2: replaced newer WinME GDI32.DLL + GDI.EXE 4.90.3003 from

unofficial WinME Q918547 MS06-026 security fix with older GDI32.DLL + GDI.EXE

4.90.3002 from unofficial WinME Q912919 hotfix:

http://www.mdgx.com/web.htm#MEU

to avoid power management errors. [thank you PROBLEMCHYLD]

But if you determine that those files [4.90.3003] work ok on your Win98 SE computer, please feel free to install them any way you want.

I have added those "extremely important" warnings because I was notified by soporific that some people try to install an update twice [i have no idea why], without rebooting after the 1st install. So with some updates [exe installers created with iexpress] that actually deletes the original files, effectively locking up the OS after reboot, because those updates rename the original system file(s) in order to back them up, but fail to install the new ones 2nd time over.

I've also added a reboot message that pops up at end of install, for same purpose.

Thanks for this explanation MDGx. I was being over-cautious in my concern about the consequences of replacing the GDI files via DOS.

As it happens, I did replace (via DOS) the 4.90.3002 versions of those files with the 4.90.3003 versions. So far I have experienced no problems, but I'll bear in mind the power management issues PROBLEMCHYLD experienced.

You are right, there are no USER*.* files to protect you from the vulnerabilities addressed by 891711, if using WinME.

I am waiting to see if the anonymous author decides to fix those WinME files, that's why I haven't removed them yet from 98SE2ME.

Here's hoping he does. Is the anonymous author still around? More to the point, is he still interested in 9x? Haven't seen any word from him on these boards for a while.

[bristols]

I recently installed CutePDF Writer (the freeware version):

http://www.cutepdf.com/Products/CutePDF/writer.asp

on a fully-patched 98SE2ME (option 2) system, and found that the installation updated two system files to WinME versions:

PSMON.DLL: 4.10.1998 to 4.90.3000

PSCRIPT.DRV: 4.10.2222 to 4.90.3000

Both CutePDF and these files seem to be working fine, so far. Is there any reason you know for why these ME files are not included in 98SE2ME?

TIA.

[Hu$tle]

I counted over 800 files including option 3

I have counted 827 files including option 3

anyone care to challenge this count?

Edited September 16, 2007 by Hu$tle

[AbyssHunted]

Just a quick question:

I've allready installed the latest 98SE2ME (July 18th), but every time I boot my machine, during the processing of AUTOEXEC.BAT, I get messages saying something like this:

ATTRIB firstfilename

1 file(s) copied

0 file(s) copied

ATTRIB secondfilename

1 file(s) copied

0 file(s) copied

etc...

Is this supposed to happen every time I boot?

I have no idea why this happens on your computer, never happened on anybody else's as far as I'm aware.

Could you please post here the autoexec.bat code and the exact messages [file names, if any] you see upon every boot?

If I could see it, maybe I can try to fix it.

Thanks in advance.

Unfortunately, the hard disk for that computer has failed since I wrote that, and I can't access anything on it.

Worse off, I've bricked the CD drive, so I can't reinstall Windows and 98SE2ME to recreate the file, unless I can somehow network install from DOS....

Fortunately, I do remember the message displayed:

ATTRIB [some + and - params I forgot] C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\USER32.DLL 
1 file(s) copied
Path not found: C:\98S2M
0 file(s) copied

ATTRIB [some + and - params I forgot] C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\USER.EXE 
1 file(s) copied
Path not found: C:\98S2M
0 file(s) copied

ATTRIB [some + and - params I forgot] C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\GDI32.DLL 
1 file(s) copied
Path not found: C:\98S2M
0 file(s) copied

ATTRIB [some + and - params I forgot] C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\GDI.EXE 
1 file(s) copied
Path not found: C:\98S2M
0 file(s) copied

also, the actual AUTOEXEC.BAT had a bunch of "@IF EXIST filename COPY filename"statements ,

except on the last line where it said something like "@IF EXIST C:\9!M\O2DOS.BAT C:\9!M\O2DOS.BAT" (not sure I have the right batch file - I might have been 5 instead of 2, and there may have been two lines like that).

I remember that the autoexec had 13 or so total statements in it, all related to 98SE2ME.

Finally, I had tried a step-by-step confirmation boot, and I was able to boot without any noticable side effects by skipping the execution of AUTOEXEC.

[MDGx]

also, the actual AUTOEXEC.BAT had a bunch of "@IF EXIST filename COPY filename"statements ,

except on the last line where it said something like "@IF EXIST C:\9!M\O2DOS.BAT C:\9!M\O2DOS.BAT" (not sure I have the right batch file - I might have been 5 instead of 2, and there may have been two lines like that).

I remember that the autoexec had 13 or so total statements in it, all related to 98SE2ME.

Finally, I had tried a step-by-step confirmation boot, and I was able to boot without any noticable side effects by skipping the execution of AUTOEXEC.

Sounds like your HD was in the middle of crashing [bad sectors ?], that's why the 98SE2ME "customized" autoexec.bat didn't get deleted after reboot [as it was meant to], and replaced with the original one (if any).

The error messages involving "C:\9!M not found" were due to the fact that you have uninstalled 98SE2ME from C:\9!M [probably after you finished installing 98SE2ME].

All batch files that install 98SE2ME options depend on the files from the C:\9!M folder to work properly.

And like you said, if those files were not found, no harm was done to your system.

Sorry to hear about your troubles, and I hope that after you get your HD back [or a new one], you will be able to test 98SE2ME again, without problems this time.

HTH