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I think I made the mistake of using option 2 on a 2GHz machine... Now it takes ~ 3 minutes to boot, the usb wifi adapter wifi manager application crashes after 5 minutes... and the system performace is slow, overall. This is on a 2GHz celeron w/640MB RAM, and a fully tested hard drive/ram... My testbed for these sorts of things.

Seeing the newly released 1-16-06 release, I'll have to test it out and see if any issues are due to some of the new files (however, I doubt it, and it's probably related to ndis.vxd). Also, msgsvr32 crashes at random... but I have always had that crash on ALL WinMe systems I have ever used... even in vmware.

Unfortunately I can't reproduce your hardware/software settings to see where the problem is.

If you have time, please compare the files installed by 98SE2ME option 2 into %windir%\SYSTEM with the ones you had from before. That is if you selected to create the backup into C:\W98SEOLD .

Then you could restore old files back to original locations 1 at a time [or small groups of related files], using only the ones you suspect caused the slowdown, of course.

If you come up with something, please post your findings here.

Many thanks for your time + concern.

About MSGSVR32 crashes, I googled some articles which may be of use:

http://www.google.com/search?q=msgsvr32+crash

Here are a few:

http://www.generation.net/~hleboeuf/ermsgs32.htm

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=262998

http://forums.thatcomputerguy.us/?showtopi...indpost&p=80197

http://www.glencove.com/95nworkhware.html#g10

http://forums.techguy.org/windows-95-98-me...-shut-down.html

http://www.cybertechhelp.com/forums/archiv...php/t-1527.html

http://www.pcguide.com/vb/printthread.php?t=1949

http://www.uni-giessen.de/faq/archiv/ms-wi...7/msg00007.html

http://uk.europe.creative.com/support/foru...d.asp?thre=8582

Hope this helps.

PS:

How did you install 640 MB of RAM, do you have 3 [or more] RAM banks that support RAM sticks of different amounts?

Maybe [just a thought] your crashes and/or slowdowns are caused by RAM sticks with different specs [CAS, RAS, frequency etc].

It is usually advised to install all RAM sticks of the same kind, and if possible [optional] of same RAM amount.

This depends mostly on what kind of mobo you have.

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I'm going to try again with a new install. for now, I really don't think it has anything to do with 98se2me. It's probably something to do with my way of installing things...

On a completley different topic, I was wondering if you've tried getting the Windows Me program "tuneup.exe" working on a 98se machine? The dependencies are listed if you try running the executable in WinXP. It seems that tuneup.exe contains a few reg entries, and a script file that runs scandisk, disk cleanup, compression agent, and disk defragmentor. The file itself is tagged as being copyright 1998, but has the WinMe name. as far as I can tell, the program itself was kept hidden, and unused... or at least, I've never seen it run...

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so what is the best thing to do ?

what should be the best order of installations available here?

why not fussion all these artwork into one big transplant?

any way until this happens what do i replace first? suggestion?

Most of these questions [and many others] are already answered in detail in READ1ST.TXT:

READ1ST.TXT

under the FAQ section.

If you meant by "fussion all these artwork into one big transplant" that Gape's SP2, 98SE2ME, NUSB and eventually Tihiy's RP should merge in 1 happy package, that's not possible, because of the completely different purposes of each of these packages, and even if this could be done, there will be lots of conflicting files and tweaks/settings/etc, that would render your OS totally unusable. :(

But there are [still available, I believe] 2 huge packages that bundle all of the above [you can install separately or setup your OS to install unattended and then install them sequentially from dedicated scripts], and much more [but these are not supported by Gape, Tihiy, myself or any other separate package developers, for obvious reasons = see above]:

the_guy: Windows 98/98 SE/ME Option Pack (OP) Full [100 MB] + Lite [33.5 MB]:

http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=52318

jimmsta: Windows 98 PowerPack [344 MB ISO]:

http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=57352

Hope this helps.

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On a completley different topic, I was wondering if you've tried getting the Windows Me program "tuneup.exe" working on a 98se machine? The dependencies are listed if you try running the executable in WinXP. It seems that tuneup.exe contains a few reg entries, and a script file that runs scandisk, disk cleanup, compression agent, and disk defragmentor. The file itself is tagged as being copyright 1998, but has the WinMe name. as far as I can tell, the program itself was kept hidden, and unused... or at least, I've never seen it run...
Great idea.

I never tried WinME tuneup.exe under 98 SE.

I will, and will post my findings here.

Thanks for the tip. ;)

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hello Mdgx, why don't you include the msn gaming zone? its nice.. convinient and so much better to find opponent online..
Thanks for your tip.

The idea crossed my mind, but haven't tried the MS internet games from WinME yet.

I'll try them out and if they work, I'll add them to 98SE2ME.

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hello Mdgx, why don't you include the msn gaming zone? its nice.. convinient and so much better to find opponent online..

It's already included in

Upgrade Pack 98 !!!!!!+ © by X-Pachner ®

50 Microsoft Updates,USB-Mass Storage Device Drivers for Windows 98,Internet-Games,Movie Maker 1.0 with 287564 Update, and many more

Here's the proof.

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Ok, I give up. ;)

I have added all 5 "MSN Gaming Zone" WinME internet games.

Run 98SE2ME option 1 or 2. Then run 1 of these shortcuts to play:

Start button -> Programs -> Accessories -> GameZone -> run Backgammon, Checkers, Hearts, Reversi or Spades.

Enjoy.

PS:

Windows XP + 2003 CDs include newer versions of these internet games.

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On a completely different topic, I was wondering if you've tried getting the Windows Me program "tuneup.exe" working on a 98se machine? The dependencies are listed if you try running the executable in WinXP. It seems that tuneup.exe contains a few reg entries, and a script file that runs scandisk, disk cleanup, compression agent, and disk defragmentor. The file itself is tagged as being copyright 1998, but has the WinMe name. as far as I can tell, the program itself was kept hidden, and unused... or at least, I've never seen it run...
I have tried tuneup.exe from WinME, and when I allowed it do its thing, it ran cleanmgr.exe, which erased most of my C drive, and if I wouldn't have stopped it, it would have also erased most of my D drive. :(

I restored all my files/folders from backups, but that's not the point.

If it did that on my computer, it can do even worse on others' computers, so I don't consider it safe enough to add it to 98SE2ME.

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I found another bug:

After installing 98SE2ME, MPLAYER.EXE v4.90.3000 from Windows directory does not start. Error: MPLAYER caused an invalid page fault in module <unknown> at 0000:84017398.

Solution 1: Do not copy MPLAYER.EXE from WinME. Version 4.10.1998 from 98 works fine.

Solution 2: Remove MCIQTZ.DLL form Windows\System\ :huh: The new version of MPLAYER starts OK without it.

Note: I saw this error on WinXP too. Micro$oft bug?

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98SE2ME · UPDATED · 2-8-2006

Please see the top of this topic for most recent 98SE2ME update.

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I found another bug:

After installing 98SE2ME, MPLAYER.EXE v4.90.3000 from Windows directory does not start. Error: MPLAYER caused an invalid page fault in module <unknown> at 0000:84017398.

Solution 1: Do not copy MPLAYER.EXE from WinME. Version 4.10.1998 from 98 works fine.

Solution 2: Remove MCIQTZ.DLL form Windows\System\ :huh: The new version of MPLAYER starts OK without it.

Note: I saw this error on WinXP too. Micro$oft bug?

Thanks a lot Marius '95 for noticing this bug.

I've also noticed this bug a while back, but didn't pay much attention to it, thought it was due to M$ installing WMP [6.4/7.0/7.1/9.0] to replace MPLAYER.EXE with WMPLAYER.EXE [or MPLAYER2.EXE].

I have also noticed this under XP, no matter if SP1(a) or SP2 are installed or not. :(

P.S.:

On my PC with 98SE2ME [option 2] + all updates installed, this IPF error happens no matter which MPLAYER.EXE version I use.

WMP 9.0 installed [with WMP9 from XP SP2 "enhancements"].

I have even tried MPLAYER.EXE from Win95B OSR 2.0 setup CD. No go.

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... even in vmware.
BTW:

Just in case some don't know yet, VMWare Server Edition is now freeware: ;)

http://www.vmware.com/products/server/

Where to d/l:

http://www.vmware.com/download/server/

The only catch = they log all customers:

Must login with unique ID in order to receive SN:

http://www.vmware.com/programs/8/serverbeta.do

New customer registration login:

http://www.vmware.com/programs/NewCustomerLogin.do

See d/l links for both Windows + Linux here [scroll down to or search within the page for VMware Server Beta]:

http://www.mdgx.com/xptoy.htm#2KXP

Have fun.

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I just used System File Checker to extract MPLAYER.EXE from the Windows\OPTIONS\CABS folder where I have my 98SE setup files stored.

That's the same thing as extracting it from Dos, right?

And I just checked back to see that it doesn't matter which version, eh? Oh well. I use WMP 9 anyway. Hmm, let's see...

Hey, I just ran the mplayer.exe from the Windows folder (the original, restored version) and it starts fine! I wonder why it wouldn't?

Let's see...

I've got MCIQTZ.DRV and MCIQTZ32.DLL in the System folder, but no MCIQTZ.DLL. Maybe that's it? Why do I have the 32 bit dll and some systems have the MCIQTZ without the 32? Maybe the MCIQTZ.DLL is replaced by the 32 bit one by some update I apply but some folks don't?

I do WMP9 and the security updates for it, the WMP7 Bonus Pack, the Microsoft WM codecs for the 6 player, the WMP9 VCM, the WMF7 install and the WM codec for the 7+ player, as well as the WMP10 codecs for the 9 series 98SE player and the WMencoder 7. I also install Microsoft WorksSuite 2005 and I don't know what that might install.

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Heh, maybe someday they'll be a ME2XP? Seems unlikely though.

Jeez, I think we can just go to the gaming zone and play all these without the shortcuts, no? They just were put there for advertising reasons to get folks to check out the zone. Nobody will miss the XP version of the shortcuts, I suspect.

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