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- optional: an cpucooler (like k-cpucooler) because win98 do no automatical powersaving cpu-idleing (unlike 2000 or xp)

Well I think one really needs a good physical memory manager for example running permanently as a background task. Way before thinking of CPU cooling which is an issue for overclockers only. I'll begin a specific thread about all that as it seems there is a push towards creating an add-on pack of essential utilities. Indeed after installing all service packs and everything, many standard things need to be installed in my view to make the system fully functional such as a CD burner, a DVD player, an archive manager and so on.

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Here is the small thingie:

Idler is a very old thingie which i've found in the deeps of archives.

Its idea is simple: it patches Windows 9x kernel when loaded to provide automatic cpu halt when idle, saving power. It occupies only 4KB and does not stay in memory!

I haven't tested it well, but maybe u'll find it useful.

IDLER.zip

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About software CPU coolers: check this website ( [quiteOT]: does anyone knows an open source CPU idler ? Thanks in advice ).

install Media Player 9.0 (+patches)
So, as you can read, many peoples consider the media player as a part of the OS...

(quoting myself)

Media Player Classic and FFDSHOW could be considered as an Update

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install Media Player 9.0 (+patches)

I always listen music and watch videos on my PC but I never use Windows Media Player. I think I have even deleted wmplayer.exe from the directory.

So the 9nth version, you can keep it were you know! ;)

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- optional: an cpucooler (like k-cpucooler) because win98 do no automatical powersaving cpu-idleing (unlike 2000 or xp)  :no:

apparently 98SE does do this if it properly installed on an ACPI BIOS

i asked about it here -

http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=39650

but no one followed up :(

some other links saying much the same thing -

http://forum.iamnotageek.com/t-11618.html

http://freespace.virgin.net/richard.amuzu/overclock.htm

more can be found via Google with a decently aimed search

does anyone knows an open source CPU idler ? Thanks in advice ).

http://win32assembly.online.fr/

down the page a bit, cpIce 1.12 (with source)

btw these things are somewhat cpu & chipset dependant.

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a free miny firewall might be handy .and all the logos plz.and maybe one more shell 32 type icon switch icl :hello:

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- optional: an cpucooler (like k-cpucooler) because win98 do no automatical powersaving cpu-idleing (unlike 2000 or xp)   :no:

apparently 98SE does do this if it properly installed on an ACPI BIOS

i asked about it here -

http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=39650

but no one followed up :(

...snip...

USBMan.com advises that ACPI active can be the source of problems in Win98SE...

Windows 98 SE USB Guide

http://www.usbman.com/win98seusbguide.htm

Excerpt:

Removing ACPI

ACPI active can be the source of problems in Win98SE. Windows 98SE automatically installs in ACPI mode if an ACPI BIOS is detected. Unfortunately, Win98SE does NOT handle ACPI very well and IRQ sharing with this OS is problematic. If USB is sharing its IRQ with IRQ Holder for ACPI Steering and several other devices you will need to install the OS in APM mode as outlined below.

Reinstall Windows by starting the system using the boot floppy with CDROM support.

From the A:\ prompt start Windows from the CDROM

D:\setup /p i when D:\ is the drive letter of the floppy.

If your hard drive is running from a High Point, Promise or ATA 66 or 100 controller, the drive will not be recognized at boot up and you will need to come back a letter.

A clean reinstall is recommended

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apparently 98SE does not properly install ACPI unless it recognises the motherboard,

(and it has a very short list, it was primarily for servers at the time of release)

you have to use a command line switch (/p j) on install to do it or alternatively -

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REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Detect]

"ACPIOption"="1"

--------------------

before the motherboard 'inf' drivers install (you will have some extra options in Display Properties > Screen Saver > Energy saving features of monitor > Settings > Power Schemes & Advanced tabs if it is installed correctly)

ACPI Steering is a solution to IRQ sharing not a problem itself.

when you see 'ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI Steering' in System Information

it doesn't mean the IRQ is shared with this 'ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI Steering' 'device'

it means the ACPI BIOS is 'Steering' the other 'device' on that IRQ to use the IRQ it is on.

the ACPI BIOS (and so all instances of 'ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI Steering') only uses IRQ 9

which is what could be sharing with the USB controller and causing a problem.

not using ACPI on an ACPI board is a sledge hammer to crack a nut option.

not using APCI disables a lot of dynamic tweaks that will make your system run better,

like the HLT instructions i mentioned and the various priority tweaks that are specified here -

http://www.mdgx.com/newtip16.htm

(note these aren't 'disabled' when ACPI is used, they're 'managed' instead and shouldn't be set)

it can also affect the correct installation of modern motherboard devices when you get to the 'inf' drivers installs,

especially on boards with tightly integrated multi-function components.

but whatever floats your boat, on older motherboards, esspecally AMD supporting chipsets, non ATX boards & power supplies, and where the BIOS isn't up to par with the specs it's probably necessary.

on my old all Intel PIII system it all works fine, only ever needed to disable USB Error Detection, but then i only have a USB gamepad, so it's not a big concern of mine.

btw your link above is borked -

http://www.usbman.com/win98seusbguide.htm

MS link on command line switches -

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q186111/

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Does SP2 install MSVCP60.DLL (a Visual C++ 6 runtime library)?

If not, I suggest that SP2.1 install it. It is installing VB runtime libraries, I believe.

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Does SP2 install MSVCP60.DLL (a Visual C++ 6 runtime library)?

If not, I suggest that SP2.1 install it. It is installing VB runtime libraries, I believe.

SP 2.0/2.0.1 installs it.

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Has anybody tried the USB Mass Storage driver that is available in source form, so it could be accomodated for many different types?

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?...b;en-us;Q257751

Petr

Of course :) And the most usb-drive makers also use it. UFD.SYS - one of them, and i can add much more examples. I think You have so much advance to check many of them. Some driver makers even have not changed original file name and file version (umss.sys, 5.0.1868.1). Some of them have changed file name, but leaved version the same. And so on.

But this one can not be considered as an universal driver like usbstor.sys, unfortunately. Usbstor covers the most of the devices, but not all.

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Heh. On my really old first computer, an HP Pavilion 4430, the HP restore disk image has Windows 98 (Gold) installed in ACPI mode, but if Windows is installed fresh with a real cd I needed to use the setup /p j. Otherwise Windows installs as standard computer with APM. I wouldn't have minded, but without ACPI that machine wouldn't detect any USB devices if I installed a PCI videocard.

ACPI is good.

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Gape

i think U're still remember about some addon into infex.exe?

i mean "context short-description option" for the selected items in the options list.

also i think it will be very usefull to add "radiobuttons" here also.

In some cases i need this. For example different icon styles - only one style can be selected during the install. Another one - hotfix KB891711. I can continue :)

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