Incroyable HULK Posted November 9, 2005 Author Share Posted November 9, 2005 Maybe KB873339 and KB886185 were replaced by another hotfixe last month but since they were showing up on Windows Update, I kept them on the list... until nowI think I have to disagree with your findings.I followed your recommendations and removed 873339 and 886185 and rebuilt my CD.I did a full install and now both of those packages are showing up as new updates that need to be installed.So unless you know of something that specifically says they replaced those files, I think they are still needed.Maybe this has to do with the fact that these were integrated into the CD before and even tought I removed the svcpack.inf file from my installation (so I can build a clean install) they are still integrated...So I'll run a clean install from scratch (with a genuine i386 folder) and I'll get into simulation ...I'll keep you updated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incroyable HULK Posted November 9, 2005 Author Share Posted November 9, 2005 (edited) *** IMPORTANT UPDATE ***Yes, you are right, KB873339 and KB886185 are still required.In that case, I think I will never use the /integrate: option with the hotfixes... they put stuff in the I386 folder and even if you suppress them from the svcpack folder and the svcpack.inf file, they are still there*** THE FIRST PAGE HAS BEEN UPDATED *** Edited November 9, 2005 by Incroyable HULK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonic Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 (edited) EDITED :Okay ! I was tired yestarday lool ... no more problem with hotfixes ... 873339 is always needed .. I don't know why my first test is failed ...----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Windows XP Pro SP2 & WMP10 splitstreamI havn't include 873339 and doesn't appear !I will try my hotfixes pack on a really windows xp home sp2 original on fresh new machine to recheck again Edited November 10, 2005 by sonic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanVM Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 I don't know why KB873339 wouldn't be needed still since it's an update for hypertrm.dll which hasn't ever been postdated. Those of you who aren't seeing it, did you remove Hyperterminal with nLite or not install it from winnt.sif? That seems like the most likely reason for why it's not appearing for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonic Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 (edited) EDITED :Okay ! I was tired yestarday lool ... no more problem with hotfixes ... 873339 is always needed .. I don't know why my first test is failed ...----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I'm only with this note ... IncroyableHULK has checked WindowsUpdate with a disc with /integrate: method of 873339 so it's okay now ...For me, it's original disc (just WMP10 integrated), I don't understand too !I will try tomorrow on another clean windows xp ... I have a mistake surely but where, I don't now for the moment ... even I recheck more than twice ! Edited November 10, 2005 by sonic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incroyable HULK Posted November 9, 2005 Author Share Posted November 9, 2005 (edited) I did a clean install manually with a "genuine" I386 folder... so no doubt here.BTW, I end up saving 50Mb of space on my CD if I let go the /integrate: method. B) Why?Because the integration method is adding/replacing some files in the I386 folder. I saved about 35Mb starting over with a genuine I386 folder and only installing with svcpack.inf Also, because I am Multibooting, I keep a genuine (untouched original) I386 folder at the root of my CD-ROM so there is a 15Mb difference between this folder and the one I used to integrate the hotfixes...So, I did a test and everything went fine; No difference from my previous installations (except for the extra space on my CD!).If you want my advice, using the /integrate: method is not good since it is adding extra weight to the Installation and is a pain in the a$$ when you want to replace/retire a hotfixe... *** EDIT: HERE IS MY SVCPACK.INF ***[CatalogHeader][Version]BuildNumber=2600MinorVersion=1MajorVersion=5Signature="$WINDOWS NT$"[setupData]CatalogSubDir="\I386\svcpack"[setupHotfixesToRun]KB905749.exe /q /n /zKB905414.exe /q /n /zKB904706.exe /q /n /zKB902400.exe /q /n /zKB901017.exe /q /n /zKB900725.exe /q /n /zKB899589.exe /q /n /zKB896688.exe /q /n /zKB899591.exe /q /n /zKB899587.exe /q /n /zKB896424.exe /q /n /zKB896423.exe /q /n /zKB894391.exe /q /n /zKB893756.exe /q /n /zKB890046.exe /q /n /zKB901214.exe /q /n /zKB898461.exe /q /n /zKB896428.exe /q /n /zKB896422.exe /q /n /zKB896358.exe /q /n /zKB893066.exe /q /n /zKB893803v2.exe /q /n /zKB890859.exe /q /n /zKB887742.exe /q /n /zKB891781.exe /q /n /zKB888302.exe /q /n /zKB888113.exe /q /n /zKB886185.exe /q /n /zKB885250.exe /q /n /zKB885836.exe /q /n /zKB885835.exe /q /n /zKB885626.exe /q /n /zKB873339.exe /q /n /zKB873374.exe /Q:A /R:N (Modified version so no Halt Box)KB835221.exe /q /n /z (Microsoft High Definition Audio)KB890830.exe /q (Microsoft Removal Tool)WU6.exe /wuforce /quiet /norestart (Windows Update v6)qchain.exe[ProductCatalogsToInstall] Edited November 9, 2005 by Incroyable HULK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanVM Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 (edited) Yes, /integrate sucks. Not to sound like a broken record, but I've been saying that for a year now. Edited November 10, 2005 by RyanVM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incroyable HULK Posted November 10, 2005 Author Share Posted November 10, 2005 (edited) First Year Celebration Folks!I just wanted to take a moment (a post) to take a look at this past year: - This topic started exactly 1 year ago (November 8, 2004) - This topic has almost 400,000 hits! (more than 1000 hits per day!) - This topic has more than 1000 reply! - This topic has more than 100 pages now!I think this topic is the most visited on the forum...Well, that's about it - Ok, ok, maybe I screwed up the list a few times but there is no official count for that! Edited November 10, 2005 by Incroyable HULK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucleus Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 (edited) November 8, 2005Added KB896424 for WinXP SP2Updated KB890830 for WinXP SP2Removed KB896727 and KB899588 for WinXP SP2How do you know that KB896424 replaces KB896727 and KB899588?I mean, is there a program or something, that tells you each time which patches are replaced by the new ones? Edited November 10, 2005 by Nucleus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incroyable HULK Posted November 10, 2005 Author Share Posted November 10, 2005 (edited) Yes, that program is Windows UpdateIt doesn't mean that KB896424 replaces KB896727 and KB899588, maybe they were still showing up last month but now they don't Edited November 10, 2005 by Incroyable HULK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonic Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Okay for me now, sorry for any doubts on 873339 ... I was tired yestarday lool ... no more problem with hotfixes ... I don't know why my first test is failed ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incroyable HULK Posted November 10, 2005 Author Share Posted November 10, 2005 I updated the Windows 2000 SP4 section as well... sorry for the delay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potechi Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 (edited) Great! Thank You I want to ask, update KB885492 for win 2k sp4 was removed on June 14, 2005, why it shows up again on November 10, 2005? Edited November 11, 2005 by potechi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incroyable HULK Posted November 11, 2005 Author Share Posted November 11, 2005 (edited) Great! Thank You I want to ask, update KB885492 for win 2k sp4 was removed on June 14, 2005, why it shows up again on November 10, 2005?This is the time when we had trouble with Update Rollout 1... later, Microsoft released a "new" version of this rollout and some older hotfixes are required since then.*** EDIT ***No wait, this one is related to Windows Media Player 9 Serie... I don't remember why it was removed. Edited November 11, 2005 by Incroyable HULK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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