MtK Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Hi,Is there any way to know which hotfixes should I download for my Win98SE, other than looking in the Microsoft Site (now that WU is off)?Is there a way to unattendedly install all these things including IE & DX? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oftentired Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 I think this is still the best source but manual rather than automatic.http://www.microsoft.com/windows98/downloads/corporate.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtK Posted September 14, 2004 Author Share Posted September 14, 2004 Yes, 10x.but I still won't be able to know what am I missing... (it's all manual)and further more, It still doen't answer my question about unattendedly install all these hotkixes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oftentired Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Some things are sacrificed by continuing to use Win9x. One of them is a slipstreaming. I have found no easy method or program available to accomplish what you ask with Win98SE. You can manually download each update/hotfix. Then you will have them available for installation.Someone who knows how to integrate these updates/hotfixes into the correct installer might be able to help you out with the rest of what you ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtK Posted September 14, 2004 Author Share Posted September 14, 2004 @oftentired:10x, i'm lookng for that exact 1 who'd help me with that...(downloading is somehow the easy part) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oftentired Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Ask the guy at the website provided by jaclaz in the link for the UNOFFICIAL update that has only a few of the updates. He knows how Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prathapml Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Ask the guy at the website provided by jaclaz in the link for the UNOFFICIAL update that has only a few of the updates. He knows how Well, the Un-official ServicePack guy only has an update to be run post-install. Whereas, I suppose you're looking for something which will truly slip-stream (i.e., replace the old files with the new). Win9x series is simply too frail for that....Anyway, maybe there still is hope - the installer gives me the impression that there is a remote possibility of using the "/Q:A /R:N" switch for silent install. But I doubt it will be enough, considering that there's that agreement that comes up when your run it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtK Posted September 15, 2004 Author Share Posted September 15, 2004 10x to both of you...I already tried emailing the creator 2 weks ago, but got no answer...querying the setup file (/?) does return those option, I'll to do some testings cause I decided my PC is too old for Win2K...@prathapml:at which stage do you suggest installing the SP, & what about the rest of the installs (such as IE, DX)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prathapml Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 I'd suggest to let the installer do all the file registering it wants, and all the registry tasks complete. And this happens only after the second re-boot (i.e., it boots into windows after setup completes, and then you re-boot it a second time). Only after that do I normally install the drivers or updates and so on. So that's when you could install the 98se's unofficial SP. Then prolly reboot (yet again!) before doing IE6 and dX.The reason is, if you install an update too early, it might get replaced/roll-back in all the heat-and-dust that setup carries out during install, and schedules to happen at first-boot (remember the "configuring windows..." progress bar with a drum? ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennxyz Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 I set this up a while back using the unofficial service pack (sesp15en.exe). Note that there is a new release 1.6 today, haven't tested it yet though.I install Direct X 9C first (extract and use /Silent switch), RebootI then install IE6 SP1 (IE6SETUP.EXE /Q:U /R:N), Reboot ( why /Q:U? I like to see something happening)Then I install the unofficial service pack using the /Q:U /R:N switch. Reboot.My kit then needed, 329414 Critical Update (Q329414.exe /C:"dahotfix.exe /q /n" /q)816093 Security Update (switch /Q:U /R:N)832894 Update (switch /Q:U /R:N)837009 Update (switch /Q:U /R:N)831167 Update (switch /Q:U /R:N)870669 Critical Update (switch /Q:U /R:N)823353 Cumulative Security Update (switch /Q:U /R:N)840315 Security Update (switch /Q:U /R:N)The new IE6 SP1 update 833989 is also required. (switch /Q:U /R:N)I run these from batch files, copying the next batch to the startup folder and rebooting using wizmo. It takes about 10-12 minutes on my old 475mhz to be all in and WU shows no critical updates needed. Qchain would definitely be nice here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oftentired Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 I set this up a while back using the unofficial service pack (sesp15en.exe). Note that there is a new release 1.6 today, haven't tested it yet though.I install Direct X 9C first (extract and use /Silent switch), RebootI then install IE6 SP1 (IE6SETUP.EXE /Q:U /R:N), Reboot ( why /Q:U? I like to see something happening)Then I install the unofficial service pack using the /Q:U /R:N switch. Reboot.My kit then needed, 329414 Critical Update (Q329414.exe /C:"dahotfix.exe /q /n" /q)816093 Security Update (switch /Q:U /R:N)832894 Update (switch /Q:U /R:N)837009 Update (switch /Q:U /R:N)831167 Update (switch /Q:U /R:N)870669 Critical Update (switch /Q:U /R:N)823353 Cumulative Security Update (switch /Q:U /R:N)840315 Security Update (switch /Q:U /R:N)The new IE6 SP1 update 833989 is also required. (switch /Q:U /R:N)I run these from batch files, copying the next batch to the startup folder and rebooting using wizmo. It takes about 10-12 minutes on my old 475mhz to be all in and WU shows no critical updates needed. Qchain would definitely be nice here.This is well done and is likely as clean as it will get without an installer that can do the entire thing for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtK Posted September 16, 2004 Author Share Posted September 16, 2004 @dennxyzdo you do those installation unattendedly?at which stage/point?let me know if you test the new SP1.61...10x for you help... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennxyz Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 HI MtKI install 98SE clean using msbatch.inf answer file.I start the updates from CD initially and finish from the HD.I do it like this so I can use my update CD on any 98SE kit.My autorun CD copies sleep and wizmo to the windows folder.The updates and hotfixes are copied to the root of systemdriveusing the same folder heirarchy as detailed in the XP tutorial, eg:Install, DX9C, IE6SP1, Hotfixes.My first batch file copies the next run batch to the startup folder,then runs Direct X 9C, then reboots.At reboot, 98 does its thing, "Updating System Settings", then the GUI loads and the run second batch calls the IE6 SP1 batch. This deletesthe first run batch and copies the second run batch to startup, andso on.It was a royal pain to set up compared to XP or 2000. It has toomany batch files calling each other, but it works.Future plans are to try and eliminate some of the batch files thatcall other batch files.I plan to test the 1.61 update this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtK Posted September 17, 2004 Author Share Posted September 17, 2004 @dennxyzhow & where do you tell the setup to add the first batch file?& where is it best to install additional drivers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtK Posted September 17, 2004 Author Share Posted September 17, 2004 Which version & from where I should download IE & DX (Latest versions)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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