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[quote name='Jeremy' date='Feb 4 2005, 06:10 PM']If it has anything to do with IE, I'm not touching it. Period.[/quote]
Amen!

You're right! Even Microsoft's own developers hate to continue working at an out-dated browser (with bad PNG support), while there exists much better browsers.
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[quote]Someone that goes to a million porn sites and clicks yes to all those "weird things" is going to want to throw IE in a box and bury it a mile away in someone's backyard[/quote]
R U implying that Opera and Firefox users love porn?

hehehe :whistle:

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IE works good enough and is safe enough if you set security right.
FireFox is great, especially web developer plugin and other tools. It carries a pretty heavy footprint though.
If all you need is a surfer, you can't beat lightning fast (even on memory and CPU challenged machines) K-Meleon. It's the Mozilla 1.7.5 Engine, same as FireFox, stripped to the bones for performance, and its pretty easy to look at too!
[url="http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/"]http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/[/url]
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Much of Firefox's success rides on it simply not being IE! :P :P

Firefox fans like me have praised the new browser's automatic pop-up blocking, tabbed browsing features, extensions, themes, javascript console (gr8 for coders like me 2), RSS Live bookmarks !!

But security is one of the big points. Viruses and spyware are often aimed at IE because of its near-total market dominance.

However, Firefox's popularity may eventually attract the attention of malicious code writers trying to exploit security holes.

Anyway firefox is taking over ! (5% share now)

Beware M$ !

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Opera provides all things which Mozilla has now been offering. Look at the size of installation file (without java), mozilla is 7zipped but still you have to add the options for tabs, mouse gestures etc. Opera offers voice command and fit to window rendering. Fit to window really helps when your desktop doesn't really support extended windows.

Opera is simply great.
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[quote name='clavicle' date='Feb 26 2005, 07:00 PM']Opera provides all things which Mozilla has now been offering.  Look at the size of installation file (without java), mozilla is 7zipped but still you have to add the options for tabs, mouse gestures etc. 

Opera is simply great.
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I agree on you that you have to add support to mouse gestures in Firefox, but you don't have to add support for tabbed browsing. I use the keyboard mostly anyways.

Recently I have been using Netscape 8 Beta along with opera recently because it offers the chance to use both IE and Mozilla rendering engines in one app... I guess Netscape has given up making their own browser. My only complaint is that it doesn't support Firefox themes and extensions. The dual rendering engines thing is useful to web developers who want to make sure their web site looks the same in both Mozila and IE without having multiple windows open, also because there are few other places where you can get tabbed IE browsing.

I wouldn't call myself a Firefox fanboy but still all of my favorite browsers have come from the Mozilla foundation. I agree that Opera is really great and all that, and I often use it, but my only complaints are A: you have to pay for it, and if you don't there are ads and B: It's not all that custumizable (spelling?). Please correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've seen Opera 7 and Opera 8 have no other ways of custimization except for themes and preferences for mail and such. On the other hand, Firefox has a lot (hundreds?) of extensions available, such as a built in HTML validator. I went ahead and took a screenshot and labeled it as good as I could with MS Paint. See it at [url="http://ubermouse.net/images/screenshots/shot3.jpg"]http://ubermouse.net/images/screenshots/shot3.jpg[/url].

IE (1 - 6) is horrible because of a number of reasons:
1. Doesn't support PNG transparency
2. Doesn't support CSS2 (which by the way came out in 1998, all other browsers fully support it)
3. Support of Active X controls (semi-fixed in SP2)
4. Supports weird CSS things, like filters... (why the hell do they come out with their own standards???)
5. Seems to be slow on most computers compared to other browsers
6. Again: outdated, does not follow W3C standards as much as they should, full of security holes (or should I call them canyons?)

Ranked from most favorite to least favorite, browsers would be:
Firefox
Opera
Netscape 8 Beta
IE doesn't deserve to be on this list
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